During their first TV interview, Oprah spoke with Thomas—a man who was born female and lived for 24 years as a woman named Tracy—and Nancy.
"I have a very stable male gender identity. I see pregnancy as a process, and it doesn't define who I am. It's not a male or female desire to want to have a child—it's a human desire," Thomas told Oprah. "I'm a person, and I have the right to have my own biological child."