Oprah points out that a key word Jennifer used was "extreme"—she wants to have extreme fun. "Yes, definitely," Dr. Saltz agrees. "I think that fun is [Jennifer's] defense against sad, against anxious."
Ramona and Jennifer believe that they've been through too much and will never be able to reconcile. Dr. Saltz tells them "there's never too much water under the bridge. There really is always time if both of you want it and are willing to work for it."