Their mother, sadly, was no help, they say. Cathy says, "I was sitting at her feet and she was brushing my hair, and I know that I said something about what he was doing and then she hit me upside the head with the hairbrush." Later, she says, "I told her again when I was in 10th grade. We were having health class and learned the word incest. I went home and said, 'That's exactly what's going on here.' And she slapped me across the room."