Oprah and Madonna

Photo: Kwaku Alston

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January 2004

Oprah: When you take away the Madonna packaging and marketing, who are you at your core?

Madonna: I'm just a scruffy, tough girl from Michigan who really loves learning and is curious about life—hair back in a ponytail.

OW: But you are the Material Girl.

M: That was meant to be ironic.... There were many years when I thought fame, fortune, and public approval would bring me happiness. But one day you wake up and realize they don't.

Read the full interview from the January 2004 issue.