How to Get Away with Murder actress Aja Naomi King is a self-proclaimed eternal optimist. Today, Aja confides in Ashley about how that optimism has sometimes hurt more than it has helped. Aja explains how shedding harmful superstitions and embracing vulnerability helped her receive the support she needed after experiencing two devastating miscarriages. Aja also discusses what both motherhood and her disappointments taught her about idealized expectations, surrender and control. In this engaging conversation, Ashley and Aja also celebrate the community of Black women who have supported their growth and paved the way for them to excel in their craft.