Oprah: Elizabeth found out shortly after ... he announced [his candidacy] for the presidency of the United States. Did he talk to you about the fact that he was going to announce for President of the United States?

Rielle: Yes, he was in extreme conflict about it.

Oprah:: Explain to me what that means.

Rielle: He didn't know if it was the right thing to do because he had personal problems and an inner conflict about having all these personal problems that could happen at any moment and an inner pull to wanting to serve. Plus he was, I believe, addicted to campaigning, and that was going on. And he had a staff who wanted him [to]—all their paychecks and all of their livelihoods depended on him announcing. And Elizabeth wanted him to.

Oprah: Did you think that he should run?

Rielle: No, I didn't think that. I think that he has a great capacity to serve. I'm conservative in that way. I believe in truth. I think you need to get all your ducks in a row and live a life of integrity before you step out into the public.


Oprah: Would you also agree, or not, that you were out of alignment, you were in contradiction, you were out of integrity with yourself?

Rielle: No, interestingly enough. That's what's just so weird about it. I followed my heart, and I believe it was the right thing to do, which is weird. I get how weird that is. I didn't make a commitment to Elizabeth. I wasn't the one lying to her, and I was supporting him in his process, and his intentions never wavered. I knew what he wanted. He just had a really unique [way of] getting there, to live a life of truth.

Oprah: And you had fallen in love with this married man.

Rielle: Right. So I felt like I would just continue supporting him and loving him until he got to where he needed to be.


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