Jim says when he heard Lee railing against Discovery's programming, he knew he couldn't reveal his job as a producer for TLC. He says he lied to Lee, telling him he worked in scheduling.

But when Lee asked if he had children, Jim says he decided he wouldn't deny having a 5-year-old daughter and 3-year-old son. Jim says Lee immediately questioned him about why he had children. "'Nobody loved you? You had to make somebody to love you? Why two children? One wasn't good enough? What's so good about your filthy children?'"

"And I looked him in the eye and I said, 'They're very kind, sir.' And he said, 'Well, you're going to have them sterilized, right?'"

Jim says Lee also ranted against religion, particularly the Catholic Church. "I've been raised Catholic and did 16 years of Catholic school, and I'm just thinking, 'Please don't ask me about my faith.' Because I wasn't going to deny that either," he says.


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