Oprah and Brian Rourke

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Oprah: When somebody is killed tragically this way, the talk is always about the way he died. Since you have an audience of people around the world to listen to you, let's talk for a moment about the kind of life Jeremy lived.

Brian: I'll tell you, he lived life every day. He never missed a moment for Jeremy—that's actually the way he talked about himself, in third [person] all the time. He was always full of life all the time, no matter where he was. One thing we've actually learned from this is to live life a little fuller. You never know when something's going to happen.