JW: One of my favorite scenes is when Arlen shakes Alex's hand and talks about how great it is to shake a child's hand—because they hold it for awhile. The film points out small things like this that are easy to overlook in the day-to-day. Did either of you start to notice any of the smaller moments in your own life? 

JD: When I saw the movie, one of the things that stuck out to me was that very scene, and that's so John Hindman. He'll say stuff that just is almost like out of non sequiturs, red herrings. That's just pure Hindman, and it's just probably something he thought of one day and stuck it in the script. 

LG: I think it's less about our own lives but more about what a piece of creating a character that is. Some of those little kinds of observations and moments and to have a character who would say or notice something like that kind of suggests this whole world of who he is, and I had some of those too. You'd be surprised how seldom you get that kind of information. Most scripts are not so poetic, a little more on the nose. So it's kind of a fun thing. It's maybe not even linear—it just helps you fill out who the person is and how they think and what they think about. I think it's one of the marks of his good writing.


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