Tom: No one should ever underestimate—that woman has got strength.
Oprah: Was she hurt by all those things people were saying about you and about your baby?
Tom: You know, I think it's something I'd rather Kate talk about that, than me talking for Kate.
Oprah: I understand that.
Tom: You know what I mean? ...
Oprah: But you know how she felt.
Tom: Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, picture every mother and how she's going to feel about that. ... It's the downside, and I don't want to give that a lot of weight because of the upside and what we get to do is so great, and that's what I try to do, focus on that.
Oprah: Were you upset or have you been upset by people saying even what you have isn't real? What you have with Kate isn't real?
Tom: That's laughable to me. That stuff's laughable.