only say what it is but to demonstrate. On the essence of spirit and I remember many years ago in the ninety's I was doing -- show. Based on a book called the anatomy of spirit by Caroline maze. You know he's gonna her partner in the middle of doing the show and I stop the taping of the show and say hey audience what's going on and and someone one instance is no we don't get it I don't get what are you talking about the spirit you're not sure. So spirit is a foreign concept it is a foreign concept. Sort of to -- away from me are. More. -- Spirit is religious test me to get back. And I said -- I'm talking about the spirit that lives inside of all of us you know cause you know we have remind you of the body never spirit . And -- and this is that the mid ninety's. Bit I would say the majority of that audience didn't know when I