justice and humanitarian work and she chairs the international board that the Human Rights Watch. All chairs the board of Landmine survivor's network. She's on the count of foreign relations and -- bio goes on and

to the Congo. And -- told me about the horrible. Violation of human rights and having to do with violence perpetrated against women in the Congo. And I think it's important for all of us to hear about it till the listener what you were telling us about how women being treated in the -- -- The the real distinction of human rights watchers that we do fact based research we have researchers most of whom are from the area. That they cover who. Go in and often very difficult and dangerous situations and do there are serious research with witnesses and victims and survivors. A horrendous human rights abuse. What's happening in the DR seeing how the Democratic Republic of the Congo ends. I think so horrendous and people are