in the news quite a bit of course has to do with Henry Louis Gates the professor at Harvard had of their studies program. Couldn't get into his house one night and He was -- with the skier whatever. And the neighbors. Called police because she didn't know what was going on there was this. Intruder trying to get into the house so -- -- the police -- At a time at least -- and professor gates was already in his home well. It theoretically sort of should have been OK at that point but the policeman. We're satisfied and asked professor gates to step outside. And that got professor gates pretty upset and at that point a little bit of verbal square inch obviously occurred. And -- sergeant Crowley the Cambridge police

Dangerous so you know technically theoretically sound and sergeant Crowley didn't though professor gates He didn't know. What woman might be in a closet somewhere or something you know that there might be violence in the

the White House than they met up in the library right. And professor gates and nobody really know what to do at that time He says -- I walked over stuck out my hand and I said. It's a pleasure to meet you and that broke the all quickness so Democrats professor says to sergeant Crowley. That once -- got back to Cambridge that they should get together over Beers on Thursday evening in an effort to ease the tension. To continue with this process. -- because they realize they were part of a larger narrative. As professor gates He said He said. We both had been cast -- characters in other people's narratives that we could not control but if we take control of our own stories we can control the narrative. No sir Denny said that by the time President Obama walked and they the immediately told him of their plans to have lunch together. And we told a new set of our progress that we had already made. He said -- ranging the meeting Obama had begun He had allowed them to bridge the divide in order to make a large commitment to American society. And then professor gates went on to say that the president was great it was very wise -- say agent -- -- Monica and I I

a discussion about race and what happened to skip gates -- -- Henry Louis Gates professor Henry Louis Gates it. Harvard University is just another one of those examples of how. Blacks and whites can sometimes be perceived. And to recap

it just happened. -- -- What what is your take on the Henry Louis Gates incident. You know what honestly I think that it just put them the other colors that it is a day. Position where