process. And we have a project working on them -- bombs just compulsive disorder and and a lot of the what does that. All the talk all about that today with a -- And we do our country affected I wash my hands straight times between. Each damn I eat something obsessive compulsive it is not let me finish introduction -- yes that's a picture of Jessica a cut. Gotta Grayson is clinical psychologist and in Philadelphia -- -- the book called freedom from obsessive compulsive disorder But besides being a world expert in his specialty he's thought about very different ways. Of treating as a compulsive Individuals and ailment that afflicts probably close to seven million. Americans he's a director of the anxiety and anger for VF treatment

And many US they're listening probably when asked. About us as a compulsive disorder it's -- -- that you sort of see elements of in in in yourself and in your friends but I began seeing an and you found. Interest in the topic that I thought I knew about but from the integrations or pick up some. And some new insights but let me let me start up with the the biggest ideologue is -- reason that now. -- that I think we reached out -- you you you have an idea about. But as a compulsive disorder. That that is shared by some but not all a psychiatrist and and that's that that exposure and response therapy. Might be effective can He walk us -- what that is and how you actually use it on folks. Are. I can walk you through it is gonna tell you why I think it's effective first sure that they are. Because actually. Yeah American Psychiatric Association. They present their -- and let the treatment in 2000. Seven attributable obsessive compulsive disorder Actually in their own treatment guidelines. Exposure response prevention is considered the first line treatment. Lillian the American Psychological Association have a short list of treatment that they call it here we supported meaning we actually have evidence that work. And for obsessive compulsive disorder explosion response prevention is actually the treatment actually there are so actually. I am doing the treatment that's considered the best practice. Obsessive compulsive disorder and Primakov on all the expert. Actually export all to agree it's really -- and we've we've practiced corporate and easy to treat obsessive compulsive disorder than it is to change the behavior mental health professionals. -- as always the case they'll walk us through what is it but He would He do we have someone who's got for example gore phobia hour. -- some other to the compulsive and related got to meet completely need to they can't get close to germs well Heidi actually expose them and they get a response therapy program -- the. Okay. Well it's it to two step process. The very first step is. Helping the press and understand why we wanna do -- -- you -- what the goal of treatment that is. It is specifically for obsessive compulsive disorder not a -- -- we do do and exposure treatment for -- it's a little bit different. You know because with obsessive compulsive disorder people are now only afraid -- something. I'm waiting to try to avoid -- -- and you mentioned germs and only get