my younger one a couple of years ago He came down the chicken pox . And nine other children came down a chicken pox two and most of them are vaccinated. So we know that vaccines which are who we call artificial immunity. Don't necessarily protect us you know and is if you are getting the chicken pox which is called natural immunity. Other parties that are existing to -- -- contraction of parts of each other and the and you don't have to chicken -- -- we did -- with that when our daughters or daughters or older were growing up every woman gets chicken pox which is a natural course of childhood and when your kid got it or someone else in -- -- guy our kids could get it when they're older siblings got that they would get and it just in -- run its course and be over with now. Hard to find. People aren't getting like an underground thin on the issue is if we're not getting chicken pox now as children and we know the vaccine doesn't give you lifelong immunity. On it makes us more susceptible to getting chicken pox when we're older -- serious illness or she. Singles event right so the the two to -- always a way to say and that's the reverse. So -- if you get chicken pox as a youth day the fact that. The virus. Lives in the nerve endings and that's when you get shingles . So Unita and so that's how we get shingles as we get booted X until unlike with at a plateau. So we know you if you don't get the chicken pox disease you don't get the fire -- living. So the point is not that you shouldn't get the immunization but that you