two men. Our president Barack Obama and our price for our former Vice President Dick Cheney . Who -- at that neither one of them pull any punches when they are making their points on where they stand about the issue of Guantanamo Bay in. Also known as gitmo and whether Richard close and where the people going to go and is it effective and does it work. Let me start Scott we'll start with Dick Cheney this time. I think -- who cut number twelve -- Start us off intelligence officers of the United States were not trying

in fact obtained specific information. On terrorist plans. Right there was former Vice President Dick Cheney Barack Obama cut number ten please our president. I can stand here today as president of the United States and saved without exception or equivocation that we do not torture. And that we will vigorously protect our people while forging a strong and durable framework. That allows us to fight terrorism while abiding by the rule of law. Hello Paul -- -- -- -- -- I want you to comment on Dick Cheney's comments about there is a difference between justice and vengeance and we know the difference. Well I think most Americans do but

with the president on this issue so I think it's. You know Dick Cheney really is in the minority when it comes to this issue and and he's obviously got to get his own personal legacy