It seems as if Tony and Wendie are having a breakthrough, but the couple soon hits a wall. Oprah Show producer Leslie is suspicious. "When she said 'numb' and 'die,' I was sitting there waiting for Harville to press her," Leslie says. "But Harville's therapy is so methodical, and it's a slower process, and it really works. But I was sitting back there saying, 'What are you talking about? What does that mean?' I knew that I had to ask her after the session."
Leslie gets the chance to talk to Wendie and asks her what she meant when she said she would numb herself. "That's what I've been trying to avoid talking about this whole time," Wendie says. "I don't want to go there."
Wendie calls Leslie a couple days later and divulges what she has been hiding.