It's one of Oprah's favorite places in the world—and the site of her eye-opening conversation with Sufism teacher and author Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee. Watch a few highlights from their conversation under the oaks of Oprah's California home!


Llewellyn defines Sufism and explains why it's about love and the heart.



Oprah and Llewellyn discuss why it's difficult for people to embrace the idea of oneness when the world feels so broken. Find out how technology helps connect us and create oneness around the world.