Oprah: What did he look like?
Anne: He was wearing…a Ferguson, which is like a suicide outfit. It's Velcroed on the shoulders, and you wear nothing underneath. … [He looked] really kind of pasty from no sunlight, and he had lines and dark creases [on his face].
Oprah: Did he look well to you?
Anne: No. Emotionally not well either.
Oprah: What did you talk about?
Anne: He said, "I lost my family about 18 months ago." Which I thought was interesting because 18 months ago was actually when he went to jail. But 24 months ago is when he lost his family. … And he didn't say their names. He didn't say, "I lost Laci and Conner." He just said, "my family."