Oprah: For bartending?
Suze: Celebrity bartending.
Nadya: Then I really took a chance. I took a chance by securing management...
Oprah: Meaning, [you] got an agent?
Nadya: An agent, a literary agent, yes.
Oprah: You didn't want to do that?
Nadya: [It was] like two opposite ends of the extremes. One, I refused to go on real government help—to throw my hands up in the air and say I give up and feel like a failure as a parent. The other end of the extreme [was] I didn't want to become a self-fulfilling prophecy and become what people thought I already was: fame-seeking. So I was reluctant—extremely reluctant—to secure any type of management.