"What do you mean by that?" Oprah asks.
"Well, because she's complete—she looks exhausted and looks like she's at least, you know, at the end of the day she didn't let Andrew down, because he's so important to me and to the girls," she says. "I think clearly I've been [having] too much to drink."
Sarah says she thinks she'd been drinking wine that evening, but she doesn't remember. She also says that she was not drunk.
"It's really painful, so I can't remember whether it was orange juice or wine," she says. "When you get into the point of where you get to put yourself into the gutter like this, ... I suppose I've tried to be perfect for 25 years, you know? I started at—or even longer. I started to use food as my friend when I was 12 and then tried to do everything right, and then it just creeped up on me."
Sarah says she feels terrible sorrow about the scandal. "There aren't really very many words to describe an act of such gross stupidity. I think this is the key to the whole of my life now," she says. "It's like I'm stripped bare. I called my girls this morning, and Beatrice and Eugenie just called me and said, 'Mom, actually it's a really good, fresh clean start for you, because we're here 100 percent for you, and we love you.' And I said to them, 'I'm so glad that through my mistakes, you'll never do all this.'"