Rielle: March 19, .
Oprah: What was that meeting like?
Rielle: Filled with love, very emotional for me.
Oprah: What was it like for you watching him do that interview with Bob Woodruff?
Rielle: It was surreal. It was surreal.
Oprah: And he is asked directly, point blank, "Are you the father of that baby?" Of Quinn. And he lies about it.
Oprah: He's denied you, denied your child, lied on national television point blank, close up. What makes you think he's not lying to you?
Rielle: I know him like the back of my hand. I know when someone's lying. I can feel it. He's not lying. He's messed up. He was screwed up. He was trying to make his life one of integrity.
Oprah: Well, this is making no sense to a lot of people I'm sure. You're talking about him trying to get to his truth, and all we're seeing is lies and lies and more lies and more lies.
Rielle: Right, trying to cover and keep the way life was. "I'm trying to fix it. I've got to fix it. I've got to make it better, so I'm going to keep lying." ... It wasn't working. Life had changed, who he was had changed, who he is was changing.