For Joan, being a female musician who is taken seriously is something she's struggled with her entire career. "I think that there are many glass ceilings, and I had a really hard time in the Runaways," she says. "First [people said] it was either a joke, a fad, but once people realized we were serious, then they started getting mean. They would say every word you can call a woman and try to dissuade you from doing what you love."
But, Joan says she doesn't take it personally; she knows many strong women face obstacles. "A lot of times you're going to get pushback, and I think it's really important for women to try to follow their dreams and push back that pushback," she says.
"Push back the pushback. I like that," Oprah says.