"I remember the drinking. I remember her walking through a glass kitchen door. I remember visiting her in the hospital," Emma says. "It seems cathartic for mum to look back. For me, it's just painful."
As part of Emma's documentary Travels With My Unfit Mother , mother and daughter put their troubled relationship to the test during a two-week road trip.
"Certainly time spent with my mother was never dull. But for me this road trip will always be known as Driving Miss Crazy," Emma says.
"Because mother and daughter are the same sex, there tends to be competition," Dr. Saltz says. "It's not on the surface. But there is that competitive feeling on both sides. A mother envying to some degree her daughter coming up and, you know, being youthful. Getting attention. Having all of her choices in front of her."
"I just feel guilty, and I feel like maybe I shouldn't have done it. But I'm treating Jenny—you know, I'm thinking that she's still my little girl," Debbie says.
"The role shifts," Oprah tells Debbie. "You no longer have the same role in your daughter's life at 27 as you did when she was 7, 12, 15, even 17. That role has changed. And you're still trying to hold onto that role. And to have to face the truth, the reality, of becoming real with yourself as to who am I now—that's a scary question for you."
"Go home and make a list of who you want to be," Dr. Saltz says. "Who do you want to be in this second half of life? What are things that matter to you? Whether this is about volunteering, working, writing, creating, pottery. It doesn't matter. But what are the dreams that you put aside to be a mother."
"My mother told me that she resented me as a child because she had me too young. She took away my fun as a teenager because she resented that I was having fun when she had to grow up so fast," Jennifer says. "So that defining moment in my life changed me and has caused me to say, well, I need to have fun and run out and go find it, and it's caused destruction, obviously."
"This isn't new, this is age-old," Dr. Saltz says. "I am thinking about all the fairy tales that are out there about mothers who want to off their daughters or somehow the daughter gets to be free of the mother because the mother drops dead somewhere. And the reason those fairy tales have been around forever is because it's an expression of those feelings that are deep inside—this ambivalent love/hate."