Eight is Enough

To get a sense of what they contend with every day, Oprah invites Jon and Kate's eight onto the stage.

Cara and Mady, the 7-year-old twins, help corral their younger siblings onto the sofa. "I think it's really fun being the oldest," Cara says. "I'm really glad I'm the oldest, not the youngest."

When the sextuplets first joined the family, Kate says she worried about her twin daughters. "They wanted a little brother or sister, not six of them," she says. "There is still jealousy from them that crops up here and there. … It's still a process to get them to accept that we are a team. We're a family."

At home, Jon and Kate say timeouts are as normal as blinking. Now that the sextuplets are old enough to walk and talk, Kate says they fight over territory and toys. "When they get ugly, I put them in timeout or try to help them resolve the fight," she says.

They may be out of the "terrible 2" phase, but Kate says the sextuplets' behavior has not improved. In fact, it's gotten worse. "Actually, 3s are rougher for us than 2s," she says. "Didn't you know? Three is the new 2."

After a bad day, Kate and Jon say they try to go to sleep knowing tomorrow is a fresh start. "We just really want our kids to grow up productive members of society," Kate says. "[And] be the best whoever they are that they can be."



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