Oprah: What was that like?
Martha: Disheartening, to say in the mildest possible terms.
Oprah: Was she always a best friend? Because I always think a best friend couldn't do that.
Martha: Well, I thought so. Best friends are sometimes not, and it's too bad.
Oprah: And [she] wrote an unflattering book.
Martha: Yeah, it's a sad thing. I did not read the book, and I have nothing to do with her and I'm sorry about that.
Oprah: You're sorry about that.
Martha: Yeah, of course. You would be. You would be horrified. Well, you can't let it be the end of your world, because people change. People are odd. People do strange things for different reasons. Sometimes you don't know the reasons. You don't know what kind of pressure they're under. You know, all kinds of things go on in that kind of episode.