Jay: Yes, I think so. I think so, but I think you have to look for a bad guy.
Oprah: Do you think that's unfair?
Jay: Yes, I think it's a little unfair, and I am going to work hard to try and rehabilitate that image.
Oprah: Do you think that now that [this] has happened, you will be able to revive, rehabilitate The Tonight Show?
Jay: I hope so. I think so. Yes. And I hope Conan gets a job somewhere else. I hope he gets on at Fox somewhere, and we all compete together. "Oh, Conan's back on." And it raises the level of interest. And you know what happens? The best one wins. Maybe I'll get my butt kicked. Maybe we'll win.
Oprah: Do you think NBC could have done something differently to make this a win/win for everyone?
Jay: Anything they did would have been better than this. Anything. Anything they did. If they had come in and shot everybody. I mean, it would have been, "Oh, people were murdered." But at least it would have been a two-day story. ... From 2004 onward, this whole thing was a huge, a huge mess.