"You're an amazing actress," Marcia tells Ellen. "You're a mother. You're a grandmother. You did years of television. You were a waitress. You were a dancer on the Jackie Gleason Show. You must have had hunger at that younger age!"
Ellen says she made up her mind as a young girl in Detroit, Michigan, to see as much of the world as possible. "I was blessed with an unhappy childhood," she says, "so it gave me a lot of impetus to change my life and to make decisions for myself that would create the kind of life that I wanted to have."