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Since Shirley does not consider herself a people-pleaser and doesn't care what people think of her, Oprah asks if she ever feels misunderstood by the people who have formed less favorable opinions about her.

"No, that's their problem," Shirley laughs. "I try to make [myself] simply understood. I do know that's my task."

Watch Shirley explain how the idea for I'm Over All That came about   

What Shirley has learned throughout her life is to be yourself and surrender to what is. She says, "If you're comfortable with yourself—which everyone can get to, to some extent—that's when you start getting into who is your real self."


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