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Oprah: It's oppressive. When you're with Erwin, do you remember that he's younger?

Tina: No. It just feels like me and Erwin. Even at night, there's nothing that makes me feel like I have to work at looking pretty in bed. We're past that. What's love got to do with it? A lot!

Oprah: A lot! But you've really never worried about getting old?

Tina: There's an expression, "You'll never get out of this world alive." It's true. We won't. Go forward. Do your best with your makeup, hair, and clothes.

Oprah: Would you ever have plastic surgery?

Tina: No. I'm afraid I might end up not looking like myself. I had my nose done [because Ike broke it]. That drove me nuts for such a long time. What might happen if I had plastic surgery on some other part of my body? No. I'll use makeup, and I don't mind wrinkles—though I don't have any yet.

Oprah: Do you mind people saying your age?

Tina: No problem.

Oprah: That's fantastic. I don't, either. I own every damn year. What principles do you live by?

Tina: I think health has a lot to do with happiness. When you're healthy, you think more clearly, and you can work on yourself. But it's not about extremes. I eat everything I ever ate, just not too often.

Another principle is that I shouldn't allow others to influence me. I lived a whole life with Ike and the drugs. Once when Ike tried to give me drugs, I blew it in his face. That doesn't mean I think I'm better. It just means I have principles I feel good about. I like me very much. When I look in the mirror and my skin glows back at me, I think, "Wow, that sure is pretty." I have a simple, childlike view of life, and I want to keep it. That's why I never got into that Beverly Hills world. So many pretentious people. They just aren't real.

Oprah: Yes. Your new CD is called All the Best. Do you believe that better is still to come?

Tina: I don't limit myself. I feel good, and I'm happy. My home is great, and I'm doing as much as I can for my family. My wish is to give the kind of truth to people that will help them change their minds. When that happens, I'll be the best that I can be.

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