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Oprah: Bravo. Barbara, what do you know for sure?

Barbara: That you've got to have someone you love—and not necessarily that you have to have someone who loves you. You've got to have a reason to get up in the morning. That doesn't mean you have to have a career. But you must have something you really care about. And you have to have friends. I don't want to do all the clichés for you, but the older I get, the more I think you must be kind. That's why I probably will be less and less of a good interviewer.

Oprah: Really?

Barbara: Sometimes you have to ask the tough questions. I can't be quite as brash as I used to be. I know it hurts. I've become a kinder person.

Oprah: When you walk out of that 20/20 studio, what will you do?

Barbara: I plan to go to a spa the next day. I haven't been to a spa in ten years, maybe 15. I'll go somewhere with no television because I don't want to watch—it will make me cry. Then I'll come home and I'll be fine. I would love to be your age, Oprah. I would love to be a kid of 50. But I have never been at a better place in my life.

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