Oprah: What brings you joy?
Muhammad: Hearing a good lecture. Reading a good book. Eating a good meal. Having my wife meet me at the door when I come back from a long trip—can't tell you the rest!
Oprah: That's wonderful. What are your favorite things to eat?
Muhammad: Baked chicken, dressing, green peas, macaroni and cheese, spinach, and hot buttered rolls.
Oprah: Me, too—love those hot buttered rolls! When people think of you and see you now, what do you most want them to think about you?
Muhammad: I don't really care what they think. They can think what they want.
Oprah: But you don't want them to feel sorry for you.
Muhammad: I live. I travel. I eat. I pray. These are the things I do. I'd rather be in my condition than be a man with four children in a four-bedroom house, working hard every day to pay for his house, taking his children to school—but he's just another person nobody knows.
Oprah: Do you still like being known?
Muhammad: There's a reason I'm known—to bring people to Allah, to God.
Oprah: Are you happy?
Muhammad: I'm happy.
Oprah: I'd say you're happy, too. Thank you so much, Muhammad Ali.
We Hear You!