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Oprah: Do you feel at ease with yourself?

Sally: Yes. In my late 50s, I began to embrace myself in a way that I hadn't been able to before. I find that I'm not as worried anymore about what other people think. That's a comfortable place to be. And I'm starting to let go of the feeling that I need to push myself to do things I don't want to do—an impulse that has always been linked to the feeling that I'm not enough. For instance, I didn't have a formal education, and I've always thought I wanted to get one. But do I really want it, or do I want to want it? I'd like to take some classes at the Omega Institute, a holistic retreat in upstate New York, but do I still really want to go to college? I don't think so.

Oprah: Do I get a vote? If so, the vote is no! Just do what stimulates you. There are no "shoulds" at this point in life. What do you know for sure, Sally?

Sally: That I'm 61, and I'm 52 [laughs]. No, really: I know that I love my family. I think that I'm a pretty good actor, and I'm sure that I love acting. My family and acting are the two things that matter most.

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