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Suze and Deb

Still, Suze says the real question here isn't about the money. "Can she afford not to, emotionally speaking?" Suze says.

Because Deb says she never puts herself first, Suze wants to know how much longer Deb would stay in a marriage she says is already over. "How much longer are you going to stay in a situation that you know is absolutely over because you think you don't have the money to leave?" Suze says. "You lose your soul for money. You lose your children in terms of not understanding what's happening for money. Is money worth that?"

But Deb's not alone. Suze says the number one deficit in this country is women not taking care of themselves. "Women give of themselves. They never give to themselves. And that we have to change," Suze says.

Deb says she's willing to try Suze's recommendations. "I think we need to be separate to find out what we both need," she says.

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