"She was very wise about life's bigger picture and that when obstacles come up in our life, it's for a very specific reason. They're there to teach us something that we haven't learned yet," she says. "She made me see that my postnatal depression was an opportunity for me to change certain things about the way I was living and the way I was going forward. She really sort of reorganized my molecules in that situation."
What most people don't know, Gwyneth says, is that Madonna's a very caring woman who's also very tough. "She's got an amazing sort of dichotomy," she says. "She's very wise, and she has a very soft, soft side."