Jeremy: Yeah, kind of a small town. It's a great place to grow up and a better place to leave. Not to dis on it, but when you're 19 as a young actor, I didn't have a lot of influences. So I had to get out. And now it's one of my favorite places because all of my family's there.
Ben: So you go back much?
Jeremy: Yeah, yeah, a lot.
Ben: And you were the scarecrow in the [1990 Modesto Junior College performance of] The Wizard of Oz. How were you in that show?
Jeremy: [Laughs] I think I was pretty good. It was fun. You get to sing and dance. Playing for 1,500 kids, it was great. It made me want to be a dad and realizing that that's not going to happen for a long time.
Ben: For a long time, really?
Jeremy: Yeah, a couple steps would have to happen. But you're a daddy now.
Ben: I am a daddy. Do you want to be a father? Do you want to have kids?
Jeremy: Tell me, how does it work with two kids?
Ben: It's great, but don't do it if you're not ready. It's a full-time job, it's a lot of work. But kids make it worth the whole thing.