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RB: In Leverage, the good guys are, in some sense, bad guys. Is it hard to make to them likeable and sympathetic but at the same time make it clear these aren't just total altruistic do-gooders?

TH: They have something going for them that redeems them no matter what they do—they're trying to take down genuine bad guys. So if their methods are a little bit dicey here and there, they're forgiven because their ultimate goal, their whole motive, is to help people, and none of it is for personal gain and profit. I think people like to see them be as outrageous as possible because they're going against these horrible individuals or companies.

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