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72 Replies Last post: Feb 27, 2008 1:06 PM by samtigerca
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Should a 340-Pound Teen Have Gastric Bypass?

Jan 31, 2008 9:43 AM

Click to view harpobear's profile harpobear 2,350 posts since
Sep 8, 2007
How far would you go to help your child lose weight? Our cameras follow a 340-pound high school senior into surgery. Then, meet one mom who took her 13-year-old across the border.
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Feb 1, 2008
Reply 1. Re: Should a 340-Pound Teen Have Gastric Bypass? Feb 1, 2008 9:47 PM

I know a young man who is 17 years of age and is obesse, he has to go at least 300 lbs. I am afraid that if he doesnt have this surgery or do something else with his weight that he will not live a full life. My wife had this surgery less then one year ago she has lost 115 lbs, she is no longer a diabetic and no longer has sleep apnea, she no longer takes many of her perscriptions because she no longer needs them.we walk 6 miles a day and work out. she feels fantastic and thinks what she did was wonderful and would recomend it to anyone!

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Feb 1, 2008
Reply 2. Re: Should a 340-Pound Teen Have Gastric Bypass? Feb 2, 2008 1:04 AM
Regarding the show on Monday I belive if anything else does not work excersice, dieting or counseling why not rely on surgery, if your health is at risk. Wheight gain is a delicate issue, some may face obesity due to herededity, un responsable behavior in food intake and because of plenty of other things. And in the case of teenagers, as mentioned above if everything else does not work why not rely on surgery, the teenage years are special and delicate its a time when you are discovering many things and when you begin preparing for a life ahead full of many wonderful things to come, and if weight issues become a barrier due to lack of low self esteem this can be terrible on a teenager. I can imagine what a parent will go through to see their beloved child obtain their goals, a parent who loves his child will go to the end of the world if it means that their childrens happiness will be obtained especially if its their health. The medical field is growing a lot technology is advancing a lot and why not put it to work if it means helping lives be lived positively.
Click to view tiger90's profile tiger90 191 posts since
Sep 13, 2007
Reply 3. Re: Should a 340-Pound Teen Have Gastric Bypass? Feb 2, 2008 3:48 PM
This reminds me of this one girl I saw on TLC "I'm too young to be so fat" a few days ago. This girl is 13 years old and weighs 350 pounds. This girl was whining non-stop that she wanted lipo. The only thing standing in her way was her anemia(the doctor won't perform lipo on her b/c if he performs it on her while she's anemic, her immune system will shut down.), she needs to take iron pills and eat more vegetables and some red meat. When she is given the steak and salad she acts like it's poison. She doesn't take her supplements either, unless her mother nags her. Most of the time, you see the whiny little fat brat whine about why she is so fat while she stuffs her face. She wonders why "God-made-her-this-way" and "God-punishes-bad-people". She is such a shallow self-centered stereotypical BRAT. She reminds me of those few ornery people(especially Vincinte) from TLC's Brookhaven Obesity Clinic.
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Sep 29, 2007
Reply 4. Re: Should a 340-Pound Teen Have Gastric Bypass? Feb 4, 2008 10:05 AM
I just wanted to say on the show their was a huge difference in the overall way the teenagers appeared on the show the ones that had the
surgery had still a drain of energy about them almost the facade of happy. Where as the girl who did it by exercising and changing habits seemed happier
with herself and accomplishment, she had more of a aura about her. all the teenagers who had the surgery which I know is not an easy way out, seemed to not change the
nutritional aspect they all talked about the how many hamburger and fries they could eat now, which means its probably what they ate before. I always felt overweight and I realized as I grew up
I had to teach myself how to deal with stress and what true nutrition was because no one in my family thought what we were eating was wrong. I think that we as a country really need to learn that junk food is not food.
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Feb 4, 2008
Reply 5. Re: Should a 340-Pound Teen Have Gastric Bypass? Feb 4, 2008 11:16 AM
I was an obese teenager. And in spite of a lifetime of diets - losing and gaining all the while - I am an obese adult. I don't think that story is unique, in fact I think its a plague. I had gastric bypass surgery last October and my only regret is that I didn't have it sooner. At age 12 I was 5 feet tall and weighed well over 200 pounds. I was attending Weight Watchers at that age - the only young person in the class - but nothing helped for any length of time. Subsequently I have spent a lifetime of struggle, emotionally and physically. My self-esteem, my enjoyment of life, my health and well-being have all been damaged along the way. Now on the verge of turning 50 years old - I was finally able to make a permanent change with surgery. I wish it had been an option when I was young. I think it's even more difficult to lose weight if you have been overweight from a young age. It's possible that I never learned good habits, but I don't think it was for lack of me trying or my mom trying. My 3 siblings have no weight problems, never have. Isn't it also possible that the mechanism that tells a person they are full doesn't work (never worked? stopped working?) in some people due to a physical, emotional, or unknown disconnect? Whatever the reason - I've never been able to maintain a weight loss for more than a year. And I've done ALL the diets from WW to Optifast to "boot camp" and everything in between. Again, not a unique story just a frustrating one. Dr. Oz's distaste for young people having this surgery seems a bit short-sighted to me. He cites the fact that no one knows what the consequences may be 20 years down the road... ability to have children, for example. But we do know what 20 or more additional years of obesity will do to a person. Diabetes, heart disease, hypertension, back/knee/joint problems, fertility problems, dangerous pregnancies, sleep apnea, etc. plus all the resulting consequences AND costs of all that. Additionally there is the host of ongoing and compounded emotional issues. Isn't Dr. Oz's concern that there are unknowns down the road true for all "new" life-saving or life-changing procedures until they become accepted and considered the norm? Case in point might be that young football player, Kevin Everett, you had on the show recently. As I recall the cold therapy the doctor administered was controversial and not the norm. But that treatment is now credited for the miracle that this man can now walk. Are they worried about 20 years down the road? In addition, Dr. Oz doesn't seem to be taking into account that parents have been making serious (and often unwise) decisions about weight loss for their kids for many, many years. When I was young I saw kids around me whose parents sent them weight loss boot camps (some lost weight, most lost and then gained it all back plus), put them on diet pills (mostly over-the-counter and meant for adults), hounded them and berated them, while still others had their jaws wired shut!! Was that the way to go? Well, since we have the increased obesity problem we have - obviously not. Today, parents are making these surgery decisions for their children with the assistance of physicians. Like with any surgery there must be an individual analysis of costs, benefits and risk. I have no doubt that these all weigh heavily on the minds of the parents and the doctors. There will always be people who can lose weight on their own, or with the assistance of a diet, and keep it off. But it is abundantly clear that there are many millions more who cannot. Surgery is not everyone's answer, teen or adult, but dismissing it as an answer for anyone, teen or adult, is an equally flawed view.
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Feb 4, 2008
Reply 6. Re: Should a 340-Pound Teen Have Gastric Bypass? Feb 4, 2008 12:37 PM
I think Dr. Ox should be commended for his comments about gastric bypass and children. Children who are obese should have to try every other way in this world to lose the weight. Be it diet, exercise, counselling, whatever. We as a society have developed a softness and like to give our children what is best for them. But we also have become lazy in the way we prepare food and don't watch our portion sizes. Hence, the obese children we see today. I will admit, I was the same way for a long time.But making sure I prepare meals everyday and exercise with my teenage daughter too, has been the best thing in both our lives.We both have tons more energy and she is losing more than me!!! What ever happened to families just getting out together and becoming active? If we all just live one day at a time watching the calories we put in our mouth and make sure we live an active lifestyle, I am sure we would all see a huge difference. We have to stop saying to ourselves that we don't have the time!!! For the sake of our children and our grandchildren. Get out there,get active and love life!
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Jan 24, 2008
Reply 7. Re: Should a 340-Pound Teen Have Gastric Bypass? Feb 4, 2008 1:13 PM
Watching this show today, I did feel the pain of the overweight teens, although I do not agree with the 'quick fix' solution. I am not overweight, although I did gain - then work extremely hard to lose - 80lbs and 50lbs with my 2 pregnancies. When the pediatric doctor commented on the 4 year old who came to her office weighing 100+ lbs, I wished I was in the audience because I personally feel that this is a case of child abuse. Just as under-nourishing your child is abuse, and would be a justified reason for removing the child from the home as a safety issue, so too, in my opinion, are countless cases of children and toddlers who are obese. Our girls are 4 and 2 years old and my husband and I are 100% responsible for everything they eat. We buy the groceries. We prepare the meals and snacks. And we responsible for giving them healthy and balanced nutrition. No one else can be responsible for their health and well-being at this stage in their lives, except for us. Therefore, I feel that the young children out there who are obese have parents/guardians who are not taking proper care when nourishing their children. Yes, I'm sure there will be a lot of angry comments about this point, but I also know many parents who feel the same way as I do. I believe that it is a parent's responsibility to take the upmost care with their children, including their overall health and nutrition. When will society wake up and acknowledge that these obese kids are victims of abuse?
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Sep 13, 2007
Reply 8. Re: Should a 340-Pound Teen Have Gastric Bypass? Feb 4, 2008 5:51 PM
Why is that we want to make things so easy for our kids? Life is about the journey. I know people who have gastic bp HATE when people say they took the easy way out but when you go into that OR, when you wake up you are going to lose weight no matter what. I was a fat kid, but I played outside like it was my job. I ran, I biked but even when I ran 12 miles a day, I was still about 200 pound (I was 5'9). People talk about health when really it is their own image they are concerned with. MEXICO, you take your 13 year old to Mexico! I am sure he was a great doc, but there is a reason they would not do it in the states.

As an overweight adult, I am still active and determined to get this weight off by old fashioned exercise, which is what should have been encouraged to these kids. If my kid has my fat gene, I will make sure they are active like I was and make sure they love themselves. Those little pin head girls teasing the fat girl, it's only their own insecurity showing. O has said when she sees an overweight person, she knows they are not living life to their fullest potential, which is BS! MOST don't live to their fullest potential regardless of weight! She inspired big women all over and became famous herself as a full figured woman. So FAT GALS, DON'T WAIT TO LOSE WEIGHT TO LIVE!!!! DO IT NOW!!!
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Feb 4, 2008
Reply 9. Re: Should a 340-Pound Teen Have Gastric Bypass? Feb 4, 2008 5:56 PM
It's unfortunate that healthy eating habits were not instilled into these young people at an early age. Had they been taught the importance of daily exercise and eating right, they would not be unhealthy and obese. I think parents who teach their children unhealthy eating habits are doing them a disservice and setting them up for heartache. Surgery is NOT the answer. The young gal who was in Seventeen and lost her weight the correct way, is an inspiration to people of all ages.
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Feb 4, 2008
Reply 10. Re: Should a 340-Pound Teen Have Gastric Bypass? Feb 4, 2008 6:21 PM
No. I don't beleive teens should have this surgery. What resonated with me most during the discussions with the young teens on your show, is that every time Oprah would ask what the teens were able to eat after their surgery, they responded by saying "a few bites of a burger and fries". Why not a few bites of grilled chicken and steamed vegetables?? It's obvious that the real problem is WHAT they were eating and not how much. I would be more comfortable with the fact that they received the procedure, if they had also changed their diet. The bad habits still exist; the problem is still there. This problem did not exist with children twenty years ago. Gastric bypass is an easy way out of a societal problem that allows children to ignore the fact that they are less active and eat more fattening foods than any previous generation ever has. I think it is a shame that we, as a society, are encouraging surgery to fix weight issues. I agree with Dr. Oz that you have to deal with the "underlying issues" first.
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Feb 4, 2008
Reply 11. Re: Should a 340-Pound Teen Have Gastric Bypass? Feb 4, 2008 6:30 PM
It sounds like both procedures are just an intermal version of a "food muzzle"?

Clearly this is a problem with what they are putting in their mouths and has nothing to do with the anatomy of their stomach nor of their metabolism.

One mom said it was a last resort? "? Since they don't actually have an illness other then eating too much why don't they simply have them wear a muzzle for six months first? it would be far less expensive.

I know that sounds harsh but this has become a huge cash cow for hospitals. I am very very sure that if you put these kids in a private school and controlled what they ate. poof they would lose the weight.

The doctors who are doing this procedure are hardly unbiased.. How much does Dr Mary make in profit off of these kids a year? Shame on her.. First do no harm.
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Feb 4, 2008
Reply 12. Re: Should a 340-Pound Teen Have Gastric Bypass? Feb 4, 2008 6:31 PM
The first guest claimed that she ate right and excercised. Ate right? 3 bites of a hamburger and 2 french fries fills her up now? I doubt she started eating junk food after her procedure. It is clear that this is the same food she ate prior to the band..still wondering how she gained weight. ??? Children are "busy" sitting in front of the TV and/or the computer. Why are the parents not out there playing/excersing with their children? Or teaching their children to make better food choices. Yes, losing weight takes hard work, discipline and excercise. But yes, it is possible. Eating right and excercise always works if your consistent and disciplined (with the exception of the few who have a "condition".) Saying "I've tried everything", walking half a mile and then eating a huge bags of chips w/ diet coke afterwards is not trying everything. As a nation, we are the fattest, we are the first generation that will outlive our children, parents lets get out there and help our children the right way.
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Reply 13. Re: Should a 340-Pound Teen Have Gastric Bypass? Feb 4, 2008 6:58 PM
in response to: kvtavares
What a bunch of over indulged children!! It just goes to show you that once again parents tend to take the easy way out. Lord knows you wouldn't want to have healthy food in your house and encourage the entire family to eat healthier and exercise. Just the fact that the young man went to camp and loss the weight THEN came HOME and gained the weight is a great signal. I was an overweight teen and adult. This surgery wasn't available (I'm 48 years old now). I continue to work hard to keep and loose weight. It's a lifestyle change.... eating well and exercise. It is simple math. I'm annoyed that the teens and parents felt this was the only way their child would get the weight off, but then I'm annoyed at many things today teens believe is due to them. I'd love to see a follow-up on this story and see if these individuals are well adjusted in their eating habits.
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Feb 4, 2008
Reply 14. Re: Should a 340-Pound Teen Have Gastric Bypass? Feb 4, 2008 7:01 PM
These teens are brave souls who have done what they needed to do to take control of their lives again. I applaud them and would love to follow their progress on future shows.

However, I was very dismayed to see that Oprah still has no idea what is involved with gastric bypass surgery (or lap band). I expected after all this time that she might have some understanding but she has some sort of mental block about it. Most people who have had the surgery can eventually -- and need to -- eat more than "six grapes". After a period of time, most people have the capacity to eat around 3/4 to 1 cup of food. Protein first, veggies next and that's about it. No one could live with any health if they lived on "six grapes". Come on Oprah -- time to read up and know what you're talking about when it comes to this surgery!!!
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