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May 7, 2008 11:02 PM by
mrsswann
What Gavin refers to is what I call "that little bell in the back of my head". Like the night that I was at Carol's Speakeasy in Chicago, when Jeffrey Dahmer walked in. There was absolutely nothing about him to draw my attention, yet I watched him walk from the entry all the way to the hallway to the back bar. If you ask me today, I will still tell you that the worst I could have said about him at that moment, was that he looked really nerdy or geeky. But I knew there was some reason that he drew my attention. What makes me crazy is that often, I don't know and can't figure out WHAT it is. Had I been able to do that on that particular night, Jeremy Weinberger might well be alive today.
One thing that all women (in particular) need to understand is that perpetrators are predators. Just like a big cat, if they smell fear, you are done for. For instance, if you feel that someone is following you down the street.....don't just write it off as being paranoid. You probably are being followed. If you show (in the littlest way) fear at that point, he knows he has his mark. So, DO something! Cross the street. Find a place with more people or traffic. Duck into a store, restaurant or bar. If worse comes to worse, turn around and stare whom you suspect down. But do it from a position of power. Remember, power radiates! These strategies don't always come naturally. You may have to work on it. Imagine a scenario and then practice what you will do. Start at home and then take it to the street. The worst that will happen in practicing is that a few other people might think you're a little weird. Better to be thought weird than be dead.....or worse.
It's Oprah's birthday? Happy Birthday Oprah!
Hope I'm home in time to see this show.... don't know if this relates to what the discussion will be about, but..... My sister once told me about her "paranoia" after seeing someone in a parking lot that she had a "bad" feeling about. Nothing happened (Thank God!) and her uneasiness came solely from her gut reaction. She had an internal dialogue about what to do if the man approached her because she didn't want to be rude or "hurt his feelings". If your gut is telling you something - remove yourself immediately from the situation/person.... I'd rather hurt someone's feelings and live to tell about it then risk possible, unspeakable consequences.
My own experience when I was 18..mirrors the idea of fear as a gift.
I was visiting a friend after work, then headed home. As I got off the bus (it was around 10 p.m.) and began walking down the street I 'felt' someone following me. I decided to not turn into enter our apartment building, and stayed close to the curb and kept walking toward the corner...a man walked passed me, so I figured it was my imagination. He was not from the area, dressed differently as well. When I thought all was ok I headed back up the hill and into the building. I stopped at the mailboxes..and heard someone near the elevator..I could have knocked on someone's door near the mail boxes, but decided to go up the stairs. Still not totally trusting my feelings. As I approached the top step I spotted his shadow on the wall, his arm toward me, I turned fast and sat on the top step. He slapped me, I told him to take my purse, he said shut up, and put his hand up my skirt at that moment my bladder gave way, and he ran. I thank god I had a full bladder. That was in 1960 I was living with my parents in Brooklyn the next day a young teacher was raped and strangled in an elevator a few blocks away. To this day, I will not get into an elevator in an apartment house. I have learned to listen to that inner voice..that tiny taste of something not right. M
I know all about this shows topic. I spent years testing my instinct or intuition. Testing it in little ways....trying to tell when the phone will ring...that sort of thing. 9 times out of 10 I was correct. I can't say for sure if my instincts were correct on the following example, the only thing I know for sure is that nothing happened to me, and that's all the proof I need. I used to live in Ottawa Ontario, and I routinely walked home alone around midnight. I always walked the same route...which was the most populated and lit areas. One night however, something told me to change my route. Instead of walking on the well lit sidewalk, I had the feeling I should make my way home through the park. My mom always told me never to walk alone in a dark park....but something was telling me I should. So I did. With no one around, and no lights, I was surprisingly calm and at ease. I made it home without incident........which I was happy to have done. That's my survival story....not as thrilling as some of the guests on today's show, but I'm perfectly happy with the low dramatics of the situation.
PS HAPPY BIRTHDAY OPRAH!!!!! Laurie in NS
Great show today -- a few comments I would like to add to the "no means no comments" 1. We as women also have to respect one another when one of us says no --- even among ourselves, we often hear no as the beginning of negotiation. I can't tell the number of times I have said no to girlfriends only to feel I have to justify or explain my reasons for saying no - where with men in my life, I say no and they accept that answer - period. 2. We as women have to mean no when we say it -- we say it without meaning because we may be afraid to say no for fear of rejection, etc. -- any thoughts?
I wish I had listen to my fear. I was having surgery, I have had surgeries before, and I told my husband I wanted to run screaming from the hospital. I was having, I believe, a panic attack. I didn't listen to my fear. I was crying when they knocked me out for surgery. I have always gone through with what I start, so I felt I shouldn't back out of the surgery. Unfortunately, I should have listened to my fear. Even through I had the surgery at Good Sam hospital in Downers Grove, I don't feel the doctor had to ability to do the surgery he was doing on me. I am now paying for his ego being bigger then his ability. Since the surgery he did I now have damage that is not repairable. I wished more than anything I had walked out. I have thought of Oprah when I have talked to my friends about it. I told them that Oprah says you get that feeling and you should listen to it. I will listen to it and act accordingly from now on!
I so believe in listening to that "little voice"! At the start of 7th grade, I enrolled in a literature class that was taught by a male. He would put his hand on my shoulder or give me a look that would just shoot right through me. I was incredibly innocent - I had no concept of even the possibility of a sexual relationship and didn't even know that adults would consider making advances on kids. But my inner voice was screaming "get away from him!". So I went to get a change of classes, knowing full well that it was against the rules. I was very surprised when the administration quickly granted my request. Later, as an adult, I heard that he'd gone to prison for molesting 8 of my classmates.
Its too easy to train ourselves to ignore our instincts. Don't outsmart yourself!
This show has been so amazing for me to watch. I was dating a man who claimed to have become a Christian recently, and he befriended my brother, which is how we met. He was charming, or USED Charming on me
Dear Oprah,
As I'm watching your show today "The Gift of Fear" I am trembling in my skin. Back in 1999 I was involved in a date rape situation at my college, which changed my life forever. As I sit here watching Dorothy talking about Kevin, I am having flashbacks of that time. I can completely understand having the "get away!" feeling that I had, which was telling me, that he was trying to rule my life. Like her attacker, mine also gave me roses, a kitten, homemade dinners, and other gifts that any young woman would want. But only to follow through with breaking in my townhouse and coming into my bedroom in the middle of the night with questions like, "Are you going to leave me?" "Have you told anyone about what I've done? If so I'm going to hurt your family and friends." He also would show up at my work to "watch" what I was doing or show up at night when I was closing up for work and lurk in the shadows as I would come out to my car..
I finally followed that "get away" feeling after he had stolen some of my things and had hurt the cat. Women SHOULD listen to themselves in every situations in order to keep themselves safe and aware of what and who is around them. I am now happily married to my High School sweet heart and have graduated college and I am a stay at home mom of two. So in my situation it turned out to be a good ending but it may not for those who do not listen to themselves.
Katie in PA
I am writing this while on break as a nurse in an intensive care unit.Jaki, check your intuition again. There is more than one way to abuse and to keep your 90 yr. old father on a resprator with a feeding tube and alzheimers constiutes just that. Wake up lady and stop smiling so smugly for the camera. Use your head. Would you want to live like that/
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