How Did The Christ Heal People?

Posted on Nov 2, 2009 2:15 PM


Straight forward question.

I would like to see your views or pondering thoughts on this one.

Here is a scripture that relates to the subject.

(Matthew 9:20-22) And, look! a woman suffering twelve years from a flow of blood came up behind and touched the fringe of his outer garment; 21 for she kept saying to herself: "If I only touch his outer garment I shall get well." 22 Jesus turned around and, noticing her, said: "Take courage, daughter; your faith has made you well." And from that hour the woman became well

Peace

Jinda

Replies: 55
1. Re: How Did The Christ Heal People?
Nov 2, 2009 4:17 PM   |   In response to: jindalee


jindalee wrote:
Straight forward question.

I would like to see your views or pondering thoughts on this one.

Here is a scripture that relates to the subject.

(Matthew 9:20-22) And, look! a woman suffering twelve years from a flow of blood came up behind and touched the fringe of his outer garment; 21 for she kept saying to herself: "If I only touch his outer garment I shall get well." 22 Jesus turned around and, noticing her, said: "Take courage, daughter; your faith has made you well." And from that hour the woman became well

Peace

Jinda

Sounds to me, that Jesus did not heal that woman.

He said she did it herself.

Mind over matter.

2. Re: How Did The Christ Heal People?
Nov 2, 2009 4:26 PM   |   In response to: jindalee

Faith in him.

3. Re: How Did The Christ Heal People?
Nov 2, 2009 5:41 PM   |   In response to: jindalee


There are people today who can heal - Lorraine Han featured in "Strange but true?" a British documentary series - who has hands that could heal inexplicably. There is a person known as "John of God" in South America, who goes unconscious, like Edgar Cayce to perform his miracles. These two persons are living in our times. I haven't read into this case - but another case many years ago - was 'Arigo - surgeon of the rusty knife'.

It should be noted - that our body does normally heal itself. We know that from getting a cut or bruise - that although it is good to clean the wound and wrap it up with a bandage - it still, however heals itself - given time and care. And so it is with colds and flus - that normally your body does heal itself. And with coughs - it is admitted that cough syrups are hardly more effective than hot soups and hot lemon tea.

Harvey

4. Re: How Did The Christ Heal People?
Nov 3, 2009 5:52 AM   |   In response to: jindalee


Jindalee

This is a thread that is right up my alley.

The Healing that Jesus did in his time is the same as we do in this time but at a much higher level than any of the healers I have worked with including myself.

Healing is actually a very simple process where the healer provides extra energy and the one who is being worked with does their own healing.

However there are as many variables to healing as there are people on the planet.

The openness of the one being worked with as well their own healing ability and how relaxed they are enhances the total possibility of healing their being.

When it comes to the healers part of the equation they have to be relaxed and able to focus at the same time.

Then the closer the healer and the one being worked with are to their spiritual and energetic peaks the more powerful the healing.

Obviously there is more that I have not related but you can find a lot of information out there in the world but you need to remember to keep what works for you and pitch the rest.

George (Ahweh)

5. Re: How Did The Christ Heal People?
Nov 3, 2009 6:09 AM   |   In response to: freedomguy

Yeah, that is partly true, it is what vanmom said in essence, but the ineresting thing is that there had to be a "willingness" or wanting to be healed by that person, which was faith, because it motivated her to act as well, the act gave her the results that she put faith in. The Christ was the vessel or was given the authority of that power, but if people didn't believe, that was their choice and so they didn't.

6. Re: How Did The Christ Heal People?
Nov 3, 2009 6:09 AM   |   In response to: vanmom95


In essence yes.

Thank you.

7. Re: How Did The Christ Heal People?
Nov 3, 2009 6:09 AM   |   In response to: truthbox


There are people today who can heal - Lorraine Han featured in "Strange but true?" a British documentary series - who has hands that could heal inexplicably. There is a person known as "John of God" in South America, who goes unconscious, like Edgar Cayce to perform his miracles. These two persons are living in our times. I haven't read into this case - but another case many years ago - was 'Arigo - surgeon of the rusty knife'

That's curious. What's the possible motive behind these healings?

It should be noted - that our body does normally heal itself. We know that from getting a cut or bruise - that although it is good to clean the wound and wrap it up with a bandage - it still, however heals itself - given time and care. And so it is with colds and flus - that normally your body does heal itself. And with coughs - it is admitted that cough syrups are hardly more effective than hot soups and hot lemon tea.

I agree with you there.

Thanks TB..

Jinda

8. Re: How Did The Christ Heal People?
Nov 3, 2009 6:39 AM   |   In response to: jindalee


Believe it, with the purest intent....and you will be it..

Our thoughts create sickness or health...love self...and travel well...tt

9. Re: How Did The Christ Heal People?
Nov 3, 2009 8:22 AM   |   In response to: jindalee


jindalee wrote:Yeah, that is partly true, it is what vanmom said in essence, but the ineresting thing is that there had to be a "willingness" or wanting to be healed by that person, which was faith, because it motivated her to act as well, the act gave her the results that she put faith in. The Christ was the vessel or was given the authority of that power, but if people didn't believe, that was their choice and so they didn't.

Believe what?

I think you're trying to say that Jesus had to be God (or given the authority) for the woman to be healed.

According to this parable, he didn't have to be anything more than an ordinary person, all she had to do was believe touching the garment of this person, would heal her.

It was her faith that doing so would heal her. Not the actual doing so. She could have touched the bark of a tree, if she had the absolute faith, that by doing so, she would be healed.


What was Jesus' motive? To get people to worship him?

Or

To help people, understand that they can help themselves. To show them that they have the power to heal themselves, to overcome difficulties and to be free from the oppressive limitations of man made rules and laws of the unlimited possibilities of human abilities.

Didn't he say something like "If you truely believe in me and my abilities, you can do what I do, and even more."

Why do most people always stop at "believe in him" and frown or scowl at anyone who says, "I want to do what he did."?

Why isn't the world half full of Jesuses

instead of it being simply half full of Jesus worshippers?

Could it be because the church is teaching it's "believers" to hate or fear anyone who tries?

10. Read... Mary Baker Eddy?
Nov 3, 2009 8:57 AM   |   In response to: jindalee


Dear Jinda,

Have you read any of Mary Baker Eddy's works?

?:|

:x

pd

11. Re: How Did The Christ Heal People?
Nov 3, 2009 9:39 AM   |   In response to: freedomguy


freedomguy,

you wrote: It was her faith that doing so would heal her.

Faith in what or who? Where did "her faith" come from? How did she come to have it?

you wrote: To show them that they have the power to heal themselves,

What power? How and where do we get it?

thanks

puplov

12. Re: How Did The Christ Heal People?
Nov 3, 2009 10:08 AM   |   In response to: jindalee

Greetings

Jesus created an opportunity for healing to take place. Through that opportunity was also created an opportunity for choice. It is choice that heals

When healing takes place it is the result of a choice made from within the individual who would like to heal themselves. The "healer" or practitioner (through their own choice) creates an opportunity in which they create an environment or shift in energy through which creates an opportunity for healing.

Christ created this opportunity when he presented himself to others, through his own vibration.

Within that vibratory pattern that he created, universal energy could be altered and shifted through choice and this was reflected in many people healing themselves.

Some chose to heal and some didn't. Not everyone he touched and spoke to healed.

The brilliance, is that anyone can also do this if they choose. Jesus was no different than anyone else. Of course the choice to raise your own vibration to the level of which Jesus was is up to the individual.

The actual technique that Christ used has been re introduced again to humanity via "The Wonders" is has been called Asymya

If you google choiceislife you will find my site and links which explains Asymya and links to the Asymya home page as well. I am one of very few Asymya practitioners in the world at this point and would encourage everyone to learn and use this technique for yourselves..

Asymya will change the world, and one of the most profound gifts given to humanity by The Wonders to help shift the consciousness of humanity.

explore for yourself and you'll see.

Love

Jeff

13. Re: How Did The Christ Heal People?
Nov 3, 2009 10:28 AM   |   In response to: jindalee


Hi Jinda,

This is the middle of a sandwich story in Mark. And in Mark sandwich stories are meant to be read together. Miracle stories in Mark mostly have to do with impurity. When love touches the impure, love cures the impurity, rather than the impure defiling love.

A woman with a blood flow was considered to be unclean, and anyone being touched by the woman would be considered to be unclean too. Same thing with touching a corpse. So Jesus was on his way to help a 12 year old girl, when a woman with a blood flow for 12 years touched Jesus. Instead of Jesus becoming impure, the woman was healed. Then, when Jesus touched the 12 year old girl who was dead, instead of Jesus becoming impure, the girl was healed.

Look at the other miracle stories in Mark. Same theme. Jesus goes across the sea (which was the source of evil) to a foreign country (impure) to a cemetery (lots of corpses - unclean), and meets a demoniac possessed by a demon named legion (impure, and named after a Roman military unit - also impure), surrounded by pigs (which were also unclean). So Mark sets up the absolutely most impure possible scenario and what happens? Instead of Jesus becoming defiled, the demoniac was healed.

Ultimately all healing is a reversal of belief in separation, which is what love accomplishes. Judgment and condemnation separates and love unites.

If Christ (love, non-condemning awareness) is asleep in your boat, then the storms in the mind are overwhelming. But when Christ is awake in your boat, then the storms in the mind are stilled. Be the non-condemning observer (which is also unconditional love) of the demanding mind, rather than the slave of the demanding mind. The dissatisfied, demanding mind is in us (in our awareness). We are not in it. We are not upset. Upset is in us. And as soon as we can observe the upset and allow it to be there, (without condemning it for being there in us), then we are free of it.

Blessings to you Jinda, Student99 :)

14. Re: How Did The Christ Heal People?
Nov 3, 2009 1:08 PM   |   In response to: jindalee


Jinda,

Vanmom95 said faith!..........And I just want to give an Amen to that!............Throughout His ministry Jesus often told individuals who wanted to be healed: * "According to your faith let it be to you" (Matthew* *9:29)..........When several men were so faithful and zealous that they "uncovered the roof"* of a room so the paralytic man could reach Jesus and be healed, God's word tells us: "When Jesus saw their faith, He said to the paralytic, "Son, your sins are forgiven to you" (Mark 2:5) and the man was healed right in front of their eyes!.............

God tells us: "But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him" (Heb. 11:6)...........

The above statement is a strong statement!..........You and I cannot please the true God until we learn to believe Him..........to rely totally on what He says in His inspired word!..............

God's word is what we should and must rely on!..........God tells us: "The prayer of faith will save the sick" (James 5:15)................

Growing in understanding and faith,

Qyite Storm

15. Re: How Did The Christ Heal People?
Nov 3, 2009 1:20 PM   |   In response to: puplov


puplov wrote:
freedomguy,

you wrote: It was her faith that doing so would heal her.

Faith in what or who?

Faith in the power she has within herself, that she thought came from Jesus, but he let her know it was her "faith that she would be cured" that cured her, not him. She was so positive that touching his garment would heal her, that her faith in it, cured her.

Like Dorothy had the power to go home, all the time, she just needed faith in herself, just like the lion, the scarecrow and the tin man. The wizard gave them nothing they didn't already have within themselves. Courage, wisdom, and love.

Where did "her faith" come from?

Her faith came from inside.

How did she come to have it?

She was born with it.

you wrote: To show them that they have the power to heal themselves,

What power?

The power everyone is born with, but just lack faith in it.

How and where do we get it?

Have faith you already have it, there is nothing to "get".

thanks

You're welcome.

puplov

Freedom.

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