Mother's who lose custody to their abusers

Posted on Sep 11, 2007 4:42 PM

Would anyone like to help me begin a national campaign for support and awareness for mothers who have lost their children to their abusers? This could also be support for the children who are being raised by their abusers? Sadly, seventy percent of all women who have been abused and then sue for divorce lose custody to their abusers. They and we deserve a voice. You are not alone.

BabeeMine2
Replies: 64
31. Re: Mother's who lose custody to their abusers
Oct 26, 2007 10:14 PM   |   In response to: babeemine2

THE ABUSE WAS TOWARDS ME, BUT MY KIDS WOULD SEE IT AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TRAUMATIZING FOR THEM, SO WHEN I SAID THAT WAS IT, HE FILED FOR DIVORCE FIRST, AND SINCE MY FINANCIAL SITUATION WAS NOT AS GOOD AS HIS, HE WAS ABLE TO LIE IN COURT BY SENDING THE LETTERS TO MY OLD ADDRESS, NEVER THOUGHT THAT HE WOULD USE MY KIDS TO MANIPULATE ME ON GOING BACK TO "MY FAMILY" LIKE HE ALWAYS CALLED IT, BUT HE DID. I STILL FEEL ABUSED, IT'S HAUNTING ME AND I'M NOT FREE AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING GETTING ANY BETTER. I MISS MY BABIES MORE THAN EVER, THEY ARE JUST TO YOUNG TO NOT HAVE MOMMY THERE TO TUCK THEM TO BED AND WAKE THEM UP TO GO TO SCHOOL, AND ..............IT'S HARD AND I DON'T THINK THAT I CAN POSSIBLY TAKE THIS ANYMORE.

IRENE FROM TEXAS

32. Re: Mother's who lose custody to their abusers
Oct 28, 2007 2:40 PM   |   In response to: ramirez79

Ramirez79,

Your story is so simiar to the many nightmares happening across the country. You have great courage to speak out. It's time to use your power to change your situation.

Google: National Alliance for Family Court Justice and write or call Liz Richards. Her web address and phone number are at the bottom of the website. Write or call her immediately and give her your information. She will help you if she can and so will I. Once you have given her your information, send me an email on the Oprah website.

Google: UN petition 1503, read it and confirm that your story is not new, a trend, or an isolated incident. Sign it to show your support for the protection and safety of ALL citizens, including abused mothers and children.

Know that you are not alone and that you and your children are already in my prayers. This is the hardest fight that you will ever know and you should not have to fight it alone. You are a woman of honor and courage and don't deserve this judicial injustice. Your children bear the greatest burden of the suffering; and while what you have ahead of you is hard, it is an easier job than what your children are facing. This perspective helps me to get through the day, the hour, the minute, etc. You must be strong. Let me know if Liz was able to help you.

Babeemine2

33. Re: Mother's who lose custody to their abusers
Nov 3, 2007 12:12 AM   |   In response to: babeemine2

Mothers Who Still Wait,


There is a new website which will be up sometime in November called Judge Busters. Google the words Judge Busters and pick the one with us on the end instead of com or org. Go to the website and write the name of the judge, the city, and the state. If we list the names, I predict there will be a pattern. Judges who consistently take children from mothers who have been abused and give them to the abusers probably do this as a standard practice. Even if you have given up, know that we have not.....not until every child is returned and every abuser is named. We are still writing, uniting, and fighting for justice for all mothers and children who have been abused. Judge Busters Us!
BabeeMine2

34. Re: Mother's who lose custody to their abusers
Nov 3, 2007 12:23 AM   |   In response to: ramirez79

Ramirez79,

I know that you must feel emotionally drained and hardly have the spirit to fight. This is such a horrible injustice for any mother to bear. I pray that you receive the strength that you need to keep fighting.


I am hoping that NAFCJ was able to help you. Were you able to reach Liz Richards at the National Alliance for Family Court Justice? She needs time to prepare so don't wait. You stand a much better chance if you can get her help. Please don't give up. Your children are counting on you. At least give Liz your info so that we can advocate for you on some level.
BabeeMine2

35. Re: Mother's who lose custody to their abusers
Nov 3, 2007 12:36 AM   |   In response to: forbilly

Forbilly,

I too well know how hard this is. I hope that you are finding the strength needed to fight. I keep you and your son in my prayers.

I was wondering if you were able to reach Liz Richards? Was she able to help you? She has been through this same injustice and knows how hard it is for you. She also wants you to have a chance at helping your son. If you haven't been in touch with her, don't wait. I know it's hard to find the strength, but putting together a plan for you can take some time. She's at National Alliance for Family Court Justice and you will find her phone number at the bottom of the website. Your son deserves to be protected from abuse and we want to help you protect him too. You are a good mother for asking for help.

My prayers are with you.

BabeeMine2

36. Re: Mother's who lose custody to their abusers
Nov 4, 2007 1:49 AM   |   In response to: babeemine2

I am so glad to hear that you have found a way to fight and not run into another buddy of your husband!!!! Keep fighting!

Love,
sleepless4

37. Re: Mother's who lose custody to their abusers
Nov 25, 2007 5:57 AM   |   In response to: babeemine2

I contacted the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children regarding my children's circumstances. I was told that they could not help me as the sexual abuse of my children was a local issue. Has anyone else found NCMEC to be helpful? Several other people called on my children's behalf. I'm just wondering which cases they actually take into consideration as we weren't considered.


BabeeMine2

38. Re: Mother's who lose custody to their abusers
Nov 25, 2007 6:30 AM   |   In response to: babeemine2

It happened to me. He was calm, a liar, and a manipulator in court. Meanwhile, I was honest, and nervous. I said that we were both good parents, but he was an abuser, etc:.. I even had 10 police reports against me, and his ex wife, and girlfriend. It did good'.
I lost residential custody, and had to pay HIM for child support, after I put HIM through college! That's when I had a great income. We lived in miami,fl. When the Hurricane (Andrew) hit, my busness, was no more.
It was a disaster! I fought and fought for 7 years. The system is horrible, and I feel your pain.
S~

39. Re: Mother's who lose custody to their abusers
Nov 25, 2007 2:51 PM   |   In response to: spb313

SPB313,
I'm so sorry for the abuse that you and your children have suffered. You know that you did nothing to deserve this, right? Bad people do bad things and we are not responsible for their choices. The justice system is no longer just when it comes to family court. The best interest of the perpetrator is the focus. You are a woman of HONOR and COURAGE for speaking out against this injustice.

If I am able to accurately assess some of your unresolved difficulties, I would say that you feel that the GOOD that you did for him helped him to succeed in his bad against you and your children. This logic further traumatizes you into thinking that you hurt yourself. Don't believe this. Good is good and so were your choices in choosing to help him with his education. This defines who you are, a loving, caring, generous, honorable woman. Period! The choices that he makes after that are separate from yours and define who he is, a harmful, destructive, dishonorable man. Period! Your good is at one end of the spectrum and his bad is at the other end of the spectrum. The challenge for us is to neutralize the bad that our abusers have done and not allow it to effect the choices that we make. Otherwise, we become like the people who abuse us. Keeping it separate from us and who we are I believe is the key.

You are not to blame and should not be ashamed. You are a good and protective mother. You deserve to be loved not abused. Your right to love your children and to be loved by your children should be honored and not restricted in anyway.

If you need help with changing custody, I recommend the National Alliance for Family Court Justice. Google their website and scroll to the bottom for Liz Richard's email address and phone number. She is amazing, and supportive, and understanding, and has heard it all. She knows your story too well in fact as the hundreds of other mothers just like you and me have been contacting her for years to expose the corruption. She helps women to feel empowered by having a voice when the judicial process gags us from telling the truth.

I hope this helps. I will keep you and your children in my prayers. Unfortunately, the list gets longer, as this happens to more and more mothers and they choose to remain silent.

BabeeMine2

40. Re: Mother's who lose custody to their abusers
Nov 25, 2007 9:23 PM   |   In response to: babeemine2

babeemine2,

Did NCMEC not provide you with any resources or anything when you called? They seriously just said, "Not our turf, goodbye"? Maybe contact your local news or even a bigwig news place like CBS, NBC, etc. and tell them about your experience with NCMEC. That's dispicable- just as bad as what your husband has done to you and your children.

41. Re: Mother's who lose custody to their abusers
Nov 26, 2007 7:08 PM   |   In response to: sleepless4

Sleepless,
Yes, they said that the sexual abuse was a local matter and that I should contact my local police officials or Georgia Bureau of Investigations. The investigator is my husband's friend and has worked very hard to cover up the evidence. So I called GBI, who told me that it was up to the local police. I guess I'm just thinking.....if they don't help me, who do they help. What do they do? They aren't concerned about children being sexually abused. They aren't concerned about the evidence being covered up? What the heck are they concerned about? I feel that if they deny my children the right to their services that they should be denied federal funding. You know! I pay federal taxes. According to our civil rights, if we are denied services by any federal, state, or local agency who is accepting federal funding, and they use their authority for corruption (look the other way) in doing nothing about it, then they should be denied federal funding. After all, aren't they aiding and abetting the police when they know about corruption and fail to act. Who acts as the police to the police?

I would like to know who they are helping. How did you get their attention? What do I have to do to get them to help us in this dangerous situation. WHAT DO THEY DO ALL DAY AND WHY AREN'T THEY HELPING MY CHILDREN!!!!!!??????

According to their website, they seem to help the abusers by hunting down the protective mothers who attempt to hide with their children rather than allow them to continue to be sexually abused after the evidence is covered up, as is often the case. Maybe I just answered my own question.

Again I say, if you are a mother who reported abuse and the evidence was covered up and you called the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, tell us how they responded to you. Did they treat you like a bother as well or did they help you? I know four people who called to report my situation who were treated like irritants rather than caring citizens who were concerned about the abuse of children. Who do they care about and who do they help? Oh yes, I remember, the fathers who abuse children. Sounds to me like it's a big federally funded pedophile ring. If you know anyone at NCMEC who will help me, please give their name and I'll give them a ring.

BabeeMine2

42. Re: Mother's who lose custody to their abusers
Nov 26, 2007 8:17 PM   |   In response to: babeemine2

I am not saying you should do this, just stating my point of view.
If my son or even neice or nephew was staying in a house where they were being abused, regardless of who was doing it, I would not stop until they were removed from that damaging environment. Even if i had to physically remove them myself. Just think of the emotional damage they must be dealing with. It is incomprehensible for me that children be left in an environment like that when people acknowledge that it is happening. As soon as I discovered that was happening, the children would be out of there, even if i had to accept the reperussions of my actions, because I would put myself on the line without hesitation for the children i care about. Waiting for the system to work will take forever, and by then it might be too late to save them from being emotionally scarred beyond repair. Just think about that.

43. Re: Mother's who lose custody to their abusers
Nov 27, 2007 5:04 PM   |   In response to: kayc123

Kayc123,
That is exactly what they want mothers to do. If you take the children, NCMEC will hunt you down and put you in prison. As far as they are concerned, problem solved. Then the mothers would not be able to bring anyone's attention to the dangers that their children are facing. If you think about it, you could probably recall a mother who has been on the news for attempting to rescue her children. Where can you go that NCMEC cannot find you? They have the resources of the federal goverment at their fingertips. Your face would be on every billboard, newspaper, website, post office wall, and Amber alert sign before you leave the driveway. Mothers must unite to fight the criminal cover up of child sex abuse, which is funded by you and me by federal, state, and local tax dollars.

I feel the same way that you do. The longer that my children are abused, the less chance I have for helping them to recover. I and my children need your help. Write to the governor of Georgia, Sonny Perdue, and ask that the court system of Bartow County Georgia be investigated. No one who has been sexually violent and abusive to a mother and children as my husband has should have custody....no matter how much money they have, to which groups they belong, how many political connections they have, whom they know in law enforcement, or what their last names are. It goes on because we say it does with our silence and complacency. Evil exists when good people do nothing.

BabeeMine2

44. Re: Mother's who lose custody to their abusers
Nov 28, 2007 11:24 AM   |   In response to: babeemine2

THIS IS THE FINAL POST FOR BABEEMINE2:


I WILL FIND A WAY TO FIGHT ON. MOTHERS WILL NOT BE SILENCED. IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO HELP, PLEASE GO BACK TO MY POSTS, AND DON'T LET THEM SILENCE YOU. I HAVE BEEN EMOTIONALLY, PHYSICALLY, SEXUALLY, AND JUDICIALLY ASSAULTED. NOW I AM GAGGED! JUSTICE DENIED! MY CHILDREN HAVE ONLY YOU NOW. FIGHT ON YOU MOTHERS OF GREAT STRENGTH AND COURAGE.


BABEEMINE2

45. Re: Mother's who lose custody to their abusers
Jan 15, 2008 10:30 PM   |   In response to: babeemine2

In the Court I did not lose all custody of my child, but the court decision of custody is unfair and just unsafe for the child. And now I'd like to say something about the U.S. legal system.

In the last number of TIME magazine there is an interview with Person of the year, the Russian President Vladimir Putin, where TIME managing editor Richard Stengel asked him a question: "One of the perceptions that AMERICANS (!) have about Russia is that corruption is endemic".

How about corruption in the U.S.A.? Maybe it is better for the U.S.A. if the American MEDIA considers corruption in their own country. And the U.S. government should not direct American people's attention to or spend a lot of money on establishing and dictating their own rules in the other countries. Right now I am getting a divorce. My husband is a lawyer. My marriage was and is abusive (verbally/mentally, emotionally, financially). Narcissistic Personal Disorder fits my husband perfectly (here are some of his words: I am God; Everything will be as I say; I hate women; No sex - no money; I will kill you slowly - I guess he meant by the law, since he knows what to do). Outside, with other people, of course, his behavior is different. What does it have to do with corruption? Here's what happened in Court. The judge, after a 3-day (during 3 months!) trial for custody, wrote the Memorandum where she turned all my testimony "upside down" (the judge knows I can't afford buying the transcript). She took away all facts and evidence against my husband and turned everything against me. She even ignored the opinion of the LAW GUARDIAN, who knows our situation well and supports my position. My husband has been a trial lawyer for many years and living in the same area as the judge. The judge has a lot of high positions in many civil and professional activities: a member of the County Bar Association (Member, Ethics Committee); the County Women's Bar Association (Director), the Women's Bar Association of the State of NY, e.t.c. She is even the President of lawyers' club of town, where my husband has a lawpractice, which means they are colleagues and have common acquaintances. It is interesting, since my husband told me he doesn't like especially powerful women (Actually, he is misogynist). Does the U.S.A. have freedom of speech? Yes (at least in theory). Can I write a claim to a higher level of authority? Yes! But to where and to whom? This judge and her "colleagues" are everywhere. They are monolith. My voice will be in this corruption circle! My husband's words "Nobody needs your truth, everybody plays his game". He has experience in this system and he knows it very well. Everybody who knows this situation just says it is not fair. But what can I do?...


P.S. Can a country that does not respect motherhood and where, in government institutions - court -, children are a trading object be called civilized?


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