aroc80 37 posts since Dec 13, 2007
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Re: OPRAH IS A TRAITOR!!!!!!!!! Dec 15, 2007 12:43 PM

in response to: josunni55
josunni55,
Well, Well, alot has changed since 1955 so get over the sickness you might have first. I do some reading and listening at times and I am very sure America is going to be voting for a President not a Priest especially the Catholic ones who rape little boys.
I know they begin with "P" but please take some time and learn the difference. This fanatic that occupy the white house clap his bible under his armpit and then send young people to be killed so he and his cronies could live richly on the thievery of oil from sovereign nations.
My advise to you is to go on to church and vote for the huck and the bees and those like him okay jesus.
See you on the other side you lunatic.
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Re: OPRAH IS A TRAITOR!!!!!!!!! Dec 15, 2007 12:49 PM

in response to: queentalk
As I said he will have to have it aired over and over again, it is people like you who will have to tolerate these questions and GET OVER IT. Thats life and thats what what rational people expect from solid leadership. I do not want a drug user as a President. Been there done that his name was George Bush. Sorry. Let's Move On. Obama is not a good candidate. Has he even stopped smoking???? Last time I checked he was still having problems. Does he use a lot of sugar???? Another classic sign of drug abuse. Any pressure can send him. Does he drink? Again all valid questions. He had better be prepared to answer these questions repeatedly and publicly and openly. And guess what, his girl friends, his children, his wife, every thing is open game. So you get over it.... Thats how it works and this is a take no prisoners world of politics. The democrats just are being polite but as I said the Republicans don't care... You can't shout them down...Hillary has been through it and then some...
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Re: OPRAH IS A TRAITOR!!!!!!!!! Dec 15, 2007 1:03 PM

in response to: uwbizkid
Like I said, if you have questions regarding Obama past drug use, go to his site and ask that question or go to the library, get his books and read about it. You are not going to get your answer on this message board as facts. Go directly to the source and get your facts.
You had the Clinton's, they were drug users. You had Reagan, he was a drug user. You had the Bush, they were drug users and alcoholics also.
The last time I checked, cigarette is bad for your health also, and I suggest that you pray for Obama to quit smoking cigarettes. You might as well stop voting because all the candidates that are running for politics both Democrats and Republicans have all dabbled in drugs as youth.
I repeat, get over it, we have all been electing Presidents that have made mistakes in the past and Obama is not going to be any different.
You wanted to know if he goes to rehabilitation, AA, etc? Ask him. I may suggest to you that not everybody stops these things by going to treatment centres. Some people will try it and may become more spiritual and with God's help they stop their bad habits. There are many ways that people stop bad habits.
I am by no means asking you to vote for Obama, but you must be fair. Ask this of all candidates and demand it of all candidates. Right now, they are all playing in an equal level playing field because they have all tried drugs as youth from both parties.
Get over it for now. Until you can bring forward any candidate aside from these 20 running that did not dabble in drugs as youth, then you can speak.
They have all tried drugs. Some are more honest than others. If he has had a girl friend in the past, bring them out and let us air them. Guilliani had his mistress living in the same government house as his wife .....
If you want to air dirty laundry, make sure you have the stomach for it.
remain blessed.
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Re: OPRAH IS A TRAITOR!!!!!!!!! Dec 15, 2007 1:10 PM
I am very sad that someone would give Oprah grief about chosing a black man over
a white woman for president. Insensitive at the least. As long as she doesn't openly
campaign on her show I see nothing wrong with her public endorsement. More power
to her. Myself, I will vote for whoever the Democratic candidate ends up being. I accepted Jesus into my heart and life in 1991 and went through a period after being
influenced by Christian radio to cast aside my 'Democractic' upbringing and voted
Republican for Bush 2 the first time around because it kept being said that if you
were Christian you had to vote Republican because of the abortion issue. You could
now say that I am remaining a Democrat opposed to abortion - I think there has to be a better solution. But, I think that Christians should consider that the Republican party really is all about 'business' - why do you thjink the mortgage crisis has happened - the banks got greedy to take on any kind of mortgage risk. Even Allan Greenspan says that the Iraq war was about controlling the 'oil' - I really doubt he is making it up. God bless
you Oprah!
I join with you and ask God to bless Oprah too
Wishing you Divine Guidance and God's richest blessings.
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Re: OPRAH IS A TRAITOR!!!!!!!!! Dec 15, 2007 1:21 PM
MAN OR WOMAN WHO EVER YOU ARE LEAVE OPRAH ALONE .SHE HAS HER RIGHT .WE LOVE HER FROM THE CARIBBEAN.GO OPRAH GO.
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Re: OPRAH IS A TRAITOR!!!!!!!!! Dec 15, 2007 1:33 PM
WHO CARES WHO OPRAH ENDORSES! This is still America the last time that I checked. Who and when she decided to endorse a candidate is surely her right as an American citizen. Or is it un-American now to express a view or engage in the political debate. Some people still reflect the underbelly of our society by always injecting RACE. So I am now to assume that ALL white people who have endorsed a white candidate are now racist. Get Real. I am African American, Black, Negro or whatever the Politically correct terminology is today, but I don't support Obama becasue he is or is not black but because I like someone else whose views and vision I feel would better serve the United Sates as President. You folks who have a problem with her endorsement and lambast Oprah only highlight what is wrong with America; IGNORANCE! We are all entitled to express a view whether you agree or disagree, whether you are rich or poor, whether you are black or white, educated or not, know or unknown. Stop the none-sense. None of you even know Oprah and don't know what is in her mind or her motivations. If you want to endorse someone so that your voice is heard then endorse them with your vote. The sad commentary however is that many who post on this site and whine and complain will not have the COURAGE or CONVICTION to vote at all. I pray for America because we are no longer united. I appeal to all American citizens STOP RACE BAITING. It is a poison that is killing us at the very core of who we are as a people
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Re: OPRAH IS A TRAITOR!!!!!!!!! Dec 15, 2007 1:38 PM
For those of you lambasting Oprah for coming out to
demonstrate her support for Barack Obama and making her out as some traitor to
the cause of women, I want to engage you head on! I can also assure you that if
you believe Opera will lose membership, again I wish to engage that. Perhaps
its a sin for a man to be a member of this site but I and others like me are
joining this site, because we see a strong woman, not afraid of her sex and
having an opinion, but she is not shallow enough to think that because somebody
is a woman, she has to support her come what may!. I am joining this site
because I believe this woman is courageous and not shallow!
The argument that for the first time there is a chance for a
woman POTUS being derailed by Oprah's endorsement of another and that she
endorsed Obama simply because he is black is perhaps the most shallow,
unintelligent argument anyone could put together. By the same reckoning Bill
Clinton must be racist because he supports Hillary because she is white! I hear
those of you who will make that simple exasperated comment “because she is his
wife", that you make precisely my point.
Hillary wanting to be the first woman POTUS not because she
is the most suitable woman to attain that august office or title except for the
fact that she is married to a strong man and a Clinton. I thought this was what
feminist were supposed to be against! Bill is now stepping into the breach of
her campaign which is imploding before our very eyes. If Hillary cannot run a
presidential caucus and primary campaign which is bequeathed with the support
of the strongest political machinery on Gods Earth, how in heavens name will
she manage a nation?
Here is a family whose political existence has been on the
back of enormous support from the black community and now smearing a black man
running for that office about drug abuse and drug pushing and all manner of
innuendo, stereotype and dirty tricks primed to invoke the issue of racial
disharmony. Is it Oprah who is being a racist or the Clintons? I am amazed that
the woman married to Bill Clinton is now casting aspersions on Barack not being
vetted and what lurked in his past. If Bill Clinton was qualified to be POTUS,
then barrack Obama must sail through that vetting, assuming that ‘Slick Willy’ must
have passed vetting himself!
No single woman on God’s Earth has damaged more innocent
women, denigrated women and offended their sense of natural justice than
Hillary Clinton. I am amazed that one of the subjects on discussion here is
about spousal abuse and how this unique community helps women escape that
appalling habit by abominable beings not qualified to be called men. When Bill
was harassing and abusing women of all persuasions, shapes and sizes, from
Jennifer Flowers to poor Monica Lewinsky, who was at the forefront of defending
that monster and destroying the reputation and good name of women whose only
mistake was to have fallen prey to the most powerful predator of them all? Her
name was Hillary Rodham Clinton. A braver woman would have walked away. She
stayed because she realized that without Bill, she is nothing! That is opportunist, conniving but most of
all WEAK!
CNN will be well advised to keep their dirty trough and
hands off Oprah!
I am a Man posting here in support of Oprah and I approve
this message.
It does not surprise me that a MAN WOULD SUPPORT A WOMAN BETRAYING A WOMAN. Oprah and her advertisers can count me out. I won't buy from anyone who advertises with over this. Her judgement just mystifies me. How she could support a candidate who obviously is just too immature and we have many surprises to come. Trust me his little book about himself where the glosses over facts will be torn to shreds when people get done with him he'll be Gary Hart personified. Sorry be stupid. Like so many lemmings (go ahead look it up) follow Oprah off the cliff. No I would rather go with a candidate I know EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS TIME AROUND. We screwed up thanks to Michael Moore and stupid Ralph Nader and Yeah Denise you didn't help either 2000 and 2004. This time we need to get things back on track. Obama is as I said a SHOOT FIRST ASK QUESTIONS LATER CANDIDATE. The drug use is just a small question and I'm a pansy compared to the guys that will tear him to ribbons.
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Re: OPRAH IS A TRAITOR!!!!!!!!! Dec 15, 2007 1:48 PM

in response to: uwbizkid
"The higher you go the harder you fall?" twaddle...that sounds like my long dead father, bless his heart.
The truth is that people who rise to great heights for humankind only fall if someone TRIPS them...I pray that Oprah is protected by many angels. And I believe that angels don't see gender as an issue anymore.
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Re: OPRAH IS A TRAITOR!!!!!!!!! Dec 15, 2007 1:56 PM

in response to: jacuzzi2
Like I said she was abused and she hired a person who abused kids in her almost "all black" school. Sorry, she's not thinking. She's not living out Dr. Kings dream. She's living out something and it's not her angel network its her viewers angel network. They are making it happen. Yeah she used her name to start it, but they keep it going. Credit where credit is due. Kind of like big corporations who take credit for what their employee's do.
Ricardo, Your comment about Oprah and Obama and why or why not she is supporting him is so fair and not judgemental. You do not pretend to see inside her heart for her reasons. You take her at face value ie what she says. that is the best that we all can do.
Then you turn around and lambast Hillary Clinton. Accusing her of denigrating women and her motives for seeking the Presidency! How can you? As far as denigrating women, wow, that is a strong statement. I am a women and I have no such feeling. As a matter of fact, I feel proud and strength is validated in me. A woman to be our president! Can you imagine. And you or I or no one can see inside her heart! She like Oprah a "strong woman and not afraid of her sex". As is Oprah, as far as I see, both of them have made strong and courageous choices. I stand for Oprah, I stand for Hillory and all women who move out unafraid. Who move past whatever abuse that has been visited on them. Who are grateful for their ability to find compassion in their souls and forgiveness. And in that have set a compass for others, women and men to use as guidence.
I stand! That does not mean I will not vote for a man. Someone like you, as a man who was not afraid to post. You just kind of backtracked a little. We are after all only human!
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Re: OPRAH IS A TRAITOR!!!!!!!!! Dec 15, 2007 2:12 PM

in response to: uwbizkid
And you think you know everything there is about Hillary Clinton? How naive could you be. If what you claim is there exist, do you think your sanctimonous Hillary would not have used it by then? You just cannot accept that somebody in the Democratic party could have the audacity to challenge a Clinton. Be prepared to be amazed. Obama will be the next POTUS. Go spread your fear mongering and hate elsewhere. We are tired of being afarid. I also note with satisfaction, you did not refute a single argument I put forward. I for one will not be led by a donkey. I will rather die a lemming than a follow the leader donkey!
And on a man supporting a woman who betrays another woman, you must surely be refering to Bill supporting Hillary and her betrayal of all those poor litttle women preyed upon by Bill! Hate like cancer, will eat you alive and thank goodness there are 300 million Americans from whom to seek support! For your information, men have mothers, sisters, aunties and daughters and as surprising as it may be for you, we are not all like Bill Clinton - prey on innocent and weak people!
You are supporting a loser! Hillary is a big time LOSER! The GOP will make mince meat of Hillary. What do they have on Barack. They can make a 240 hours video of Hillary and her Rose Firm not to mention Bill then and now - The Clintons - The Sequel
Enough of HATE and FEAR!!
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Re: OPRAH IS A TRAITOR!!!!!!!!! Dec 15, 2007 2:17 PM

in response to: jacuzzi2
Oh by the way, I find women who are over the age of 40 know what it was like when their mothers and they were not given equal rights, called baby, and treated and are still treated like second class citizens. Look at how many men are in Congress and the Senate. You want to see something radical. Elect the first woman President. We had to have an Amendment, the 19th, giving us the right to vote as Women. That was a full half century after Mr. Obama had his rights. Yes Oprah has her rights too. But as I said I'm just questioning her very Public decision and she is in the PUBLIC eye so it is fair game for ME to do so. I question her judgment on her decisions about her private school and who she is selecting to run the school. She selected an ABUSER. Is she vetting Obama the way she vetted these people??
She went public, She is open to PUBLIC debate as well and her advertisers and everyone that touches her. Her very public endorsement of Obama is up to the same scrutiny. He has made highly irresponsible statements. He advocates a shoot first ask questions later posture with Pakistan. Thats dangerous. He will talk with despots. Any leader knows (those with common sense) YOU DO NOT CODDLE TYRANTS. Clinton kept Hussein under control with fly overs and this was working. Bush was a shoot first ask questions later guy and he did what he did because he COULD. Obama has the same attitude. He said he didn't vote for the war. He didn't because he was NEW, YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED. Not because he had any greater or better wisdom or insight. He's repeatedly proven this over and over with his own mouth.
Obama advocates Nuclear Engergy and he doesn't know what he is talking about. Some of us fought long and hard to eliminate nuclear waste dumping and end nuclear facilities in our area's because of the lack of safe dumping. First do the reasearch then open your mouth. He's neither. He is no different than George Bush in my mind at this point. It is highly frustrating and the only train people are getting on is this happy pill train so I wonder what drugs everyone is taking when they go to see him. Its serious now. We'll see if Al Gore endorses then we will know. Were he to run the question would be over.
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Re: OPRAH IS A TRAITOR!!!!!!!!! Dec 15, 2007 2:27 PM

in response to: uwbizkid
Many of the arguments on this site are really silly. You lambast her because in your small minds she is endorsing Obama because he is black and you are upset because she is not endorsing a woman because she is a woman. Can you say DOUBLE-STANDARD? Oprah would then be castigated for being a sexist. Your arguments truly have no merit because on one hand you want her to simply endorse someone based on gender and then your lambast her because you perceive her to endorse based on race. Oprah after all is Black AND female so your argument is really pitiful. This woman who has a right just like you and me to express her views because afterall this is America. If you small minded individuals don't watch her show anymore or buy products advertised on her show that is your right and reflects just how empty your lives are. GET A LIFE!!!!!!! If you really care about what's going on in this country then try helping the homeless, try helping children , volunteer at a senior center, volunteer at the VA hospitals in your area.Are you involved in the process or are you one who hides behind a computer and simply complains and whines. GET out and vote for the man or woman who YOU feel is best suited for the job. Leave Oprah alone and stop being so negative if you choose not to agree with who Oprah has decided to back. Grow UP people, some of you sound like two-year olds who have had your ball taken away and now you are having a tantrum. Get involved with the process by voting and let YOUR voice be heard. BTW, I support Hillary and I am an African American female. It just makes me angry that there are still so many ignorant race-baiters in this country.
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