Is Awakening equated with denial of being human? It seems many people are taking this to an extreme ... Christians chanting quotes, "We are right, you are wrong", "Awakening" people saying the same ... and using awakening to deny humanity. Get a grip ... you are not awakening, just taking sides ... in one extreme to the other. Yes, an awakened woman can have a child, yes an awakened person can have financial wealth ... it's not one or the other, this or that ... Everything must come together in the middle ... I know I am not the only one who sees the mockery of it all in these message boards - people claiming one side or the other and not coming together. I also see people trying, and people replying to almost every post claiming enlightened responses. Can't we just settle down? We are impatient .... we want to jump from A to Z ...