Well seeing as Minglen is wanting others eyes to be opened - post 11

http://www.oprah.com/community/message/1051770#1051770

and Mike's being encouraged by Minglen in his reply - post 17

http://www.oprah.com/community/message/1051793#1051793

and you supporting them both and giving satan the same reverence to God and other posters by spelling satan with a capital 's' in the header of your post... my guess is that all is well...

My apologies if you find my thoughts on satan offensive or disrespectful on your ideology and worship of such

You are such an eye opener, happns!!

yeaselah wrote:

You will not die "reincarnation..." an you will never even be sick with holistic healing, herbology, acupuncture, magic, the healing of crystals, etc.

so you're saying that Jesus himself is satan ? -- because he too preached 'everlasting life', and he too healed people miraculously.

I am understanding you, jgrows.

I have never heard anyone say that we will never be sick with holistic healing. Cannot figure where that one came from. If no one gets sick, there would be no need for the holistic healing. All the holistic approach does is look at the entire being and not just the symptom of the dis-ease. I am involved with holistic traetment and with western modern medicine. Wouldn't have a job if people never got sick!

I do believe that Jesus also practiced laying on of hands. Also, I am not a scholar of the Bible teachings but, I am told that reincarnation was edited out of the original bible texts. So, who is to know. Sure don't believe I will go to hell for believing it.

Wonder where these lies come from? Does the devil have a book too?

Mi

Mi, just as a side-question : do you think that people are prone to getting more sick when new healing methods are introduced ? I mean, do you think that possibly the collective conscious of 'healers' wishes for 'sick people' to come their way ? Sorry, this is just something that popped into my head. I absolutely believe in holistic health-matters, that body affects mind, and mind affects body, etc, and that a natural balance needs to be restored in order to heal any disease.

as for the book of the devil .... written by man ?

Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the one sin that is not forgiven. How does one commit this unforgivable sin? By attributing the works of the Holy Spirit (Jesus healed by the Holy Spirit) as the works of the devil. See the following Scriptures:

Mark 3:28-29: 28Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: 29But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

Luke 12:10 : 10And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

The Pharisees blasphemed when they said in Matthew 9:34 But the Pharisees said, He drives out demons through and with the help of the prince of demons.

On the one hand you and others here seem to know the Word of God, but you don't reverence it or receive it as the Truth. That is the same as rejecting Jesus Christ - the Word (which by the way is the "Sin of the World" John 1:29).

minglen1

Misinterpretations are rife again, I see --- as well as assumptions. What do you assume you know about me, and how I reverence / receive God's word ? Or do you mean the Bible ? Even the Bible I reverence and receive, but I do not reverence Christian interpretation of it.

Also, please explain : son of man --- that is meant to be Jesus. But the holy spirit is ... what ? I mentioned Jesus in my post to yeasealah. I did not blaspheme against the holy spirit, nor did I blaspheme against Jesus -- I asked yesealah about her stance on this.

cyber pulpits, girls, cyber pulpits.

Love to you Swan and Mi, YaYa

Well I didnt see anywhere in the Bible where Eve ever died and even God verified they became like God, and Jesus verified that also. Plus it seems to be if you can be Reborn you would either have die; or be re in carnated; just like Jesus was GOD re in carnated or GOD in the Flesh.....Tomatoes To Mottoes

Peace out

Is this not what yeaselah thread is about?

Claiming every miracle healing ever heard about (after Jesus) is the work of satan?

Does this mean the holy spirit does not exist anywhere, or in anyone, anymore?

Is holistic or faith healing, for example, the work of the holy spirit or the prince of demons?

To your first question: This thread is exposing the lies of Satan that have blinded the minds of mankind which is why so many people cannot accept the Word of God (Jesus Christ) as the Truth. This world is ruled by the powers and principalities of the air and since people find that too far-fetched a notion to believe, they are easily deceived.

Question 2: Every miracle of healing is not the work of Jesus Christ it is the express work of the devil to deceive people; we are in the last days and there are many anti-Christs in the earth and they will perform miracles, signs and wonders. Consider Scripture: Matthew 7:21-23 - 21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

Question 3: The Holy Spirit still indwells all believers; but the time will come when the Holy Spirit of God will be taken away from men and it will be during the coming end-times era.

Question 4: Holistic Healing is a work of the flesh, it is a work that emanates from the souls of men which is very power and can produce miracles and healing - the devil uses this power so that men will believe they are god and they don't need the God of Heaven. Faith healing....it depends on who or what your faith is in....people can be healed by Faith in their ability or Faith in God's ability.

love,

minglen1

Reincarnation - How come nobody ever says they were a dinosaur in a previous life? My sister says that we came from another planet. I tend to think that we were created for a special purpose and I was first created a little over 30 years ago and that is when my spirit was created also.

Your eyes will be opend - Anytime anyone think they have total "power" over their life, they will probably get a wake up call. I've seen it in "everyone" I know

You will be like God - Energy for people is a little easier to swallow for people. A God that actually looks like a human just doesn't make sense. Even though, we have been the most intelligent life on earth with thoughts and feelings (and decisions to make). So, it would actually make sense that God may look as we do. I know someone is thinking Aliens............... But, let's go with the obvious for right now. And, I've noticed that some people that believe in Angels, don't believe in God. How is that possible?

Good and evil - Turn on the news

Jesus Christ is not God - I know he is as much of God as you can get, being in the flesh. Again, cosmic energy is just easier to swallow for people. If there had been a guy just going around saying he is the Son of God, that would've been the end of the story. No, it wasn't the end of the story. Jesus fulfilled prophecy and performed more miracles and humanly possible.

....can you expound for me on the 'end times'....????....Satan/Jesus...etc....??..(not a Biblical scholar here..)

good spaces

WOW!

I am really blown away by the talk here! Where exactly did the blastpheming come in?

Jg, Your thought about more people getting sick really sparked some thought in me. I honestly never thought about it that way but...

As a believer in that we create our reality, I must say, could be. When someone goes into the healing arts, wether it is energy healing or medicine healing, they do put out the intention to have someone to wrok their craft on. Interesting thought. I would hope that I never caused anyone to feel sick.

Minglin, When an energy healer approaches a client, it is with the clients complete permision. An honest practitioner would never take that person away from medical care. Bottom line is though, all healing is of God. The disease is the ugly part. The practitioner merely intends for the healing to occur. All disease starts in the energy system of the body. My Jesus laid hands on people for healing. He also said that we could do the same. I personally ask for divine guidance at the start of any session. It is all prayer to God. Difference is, I don't ask for healing, I give thanks for it and believe it to happen. I try not to pray, "gimme, gimme."

Example....I will be taking a training in a few weeks in Reflexology. The is alot of science to that very old practice. It is also, energy healing. The reflexologist is working on the body's energy system. Often with good results. Accupuncture is the same. Been around for thousands of years. It works. It is God given.

Also, because one does not view Jesus in the same way as someone else, does not mean that they deny him.

YaYa, I love you too!

Freedomguy, Your are the utmost of good sense. Thanks for being who you are.

MiMi

If I talk in tongues can we all pretend to get along...

I think I still remember the "beelzebub seven times as fast as you can..." trick my Sunday School teacher taught me.

Arwen