The Vietnam war could of start as early as 1950. Yet the USA will say it start in 1961. Troops left Vietnam in 1975, when looking at this we must ask "So what did we win?" The war in Afghanistan start in October of 2001, it has been 8 years now since this war, and we still have not got a hold of Osama bin Laden. The Iraq start in March of 2003, this war has been going on for the last six years, and have we won anything by this war? Bush tells us we got rid of that Saddam Hussein who was a terrible leader. Yet look at the children left behind in this country in which a war still goes on. When all the troops come home will we be left with a bunch of unhappy men and women like in Vietnam? What is with war when no one wins, when those countries are left with years of rebuilding. Leaving the people in the countries left to decide to forgive and forget or to contine to hate the world. A war when no one wins and pain takes long to forgive, time to rebuild, and peace once again yet we find war just begins again, and a new fight with no winner begins. War when no one wins.