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Gratitude and Q & A

Posted on Apr 18, 2008

Hello Dear Friends,

One exciting key, we can call it a hidden treasure, which Eckhart and Oprah touched on last session, was the acknowledgment of abundance. The acknowledgment of abundance, which is gratitude, is an essential aspect of the flowering of human consciousness, of our spirit. Without it, we seem to wither. Gratitude is the fuel for awakening. Eckhart said last Monday, "Acknowledging the good in your life is the foundation of all abundance." In my own process of awakening, like Oprah, I kept a daily gratitude journal. This helped me appreciate the little things in my life, the things we so often take for granted - the breath, the joy of a dog wagging its tail, the aliveness within my body, the laughter of a child, etc. I began to notice that through the act of gratitude, more abundance flowed into my life. What we think, we create. Of course, the only way to test this theory is to try it. If you haven't already begun to keep a gratitude journal, let us together, keep one, at least for the remaining three sessions. I would suggest that you write at least three things every day. Oprah writes five things. However, the number is not as important as beginning to do it.

Also, I invite you to write one thing that you are grateful for in the moment that you are writing to me on my blog. You may write it at the beginning or end of your question or comment. This, however, is not mandatory, but simply a suggested exercise to experience more abundance in your life. I can almost hear some people say, "Ugh." If you have resistance to this exercise, be aware of the resistance, feel it in your body, notice the thoughts that arise. Now become the space for what is and write from there. Perhaps the first entry in your journal will be, "I am grateful that I have become aware of my resistance to gratitude and abundance."

Slambert1a writes, "...The one story from the Bible that I am still trying to wrap my mind around is Eve and "Original Sin". In the fear based religion there seemed to always be the undercurrent of "women are to blame" since Eve ate the forbidden fruit. I never fully bought into that either but I realize now that my pain body did. And I think this contributed to my thinking/feeling of never being good enough... my question to you is, what are your thoughts on the story of Eve?..."

Thank you for such a thought provoking inquiry into one of the most basic errors of our thinking. There seems to be two schools of thought in regards to biblical texts and stories: literal and figurative. Behind every Biblical or Zen story, literal or figurative, lies a deeper spiritual truth and teaching.

Why does it appear in Genesis that the female is responsible for the "Fall"? I can only speculate that when the account was written, probably by a male ego, the female had already come to be seen as a threat and therefore had to be suppressed. Eckhart refers to the relationship between the ego and the male and the ego and the female (pages 155-157 of ANE).

Here are some more thoughts about the teaching intertwined with the story of "Adam and Eve" (Genesis 2) and "The Fall of Man" (Genesis 3). In my view it is about what has happened to us as human beings. Genesis 2 begins, "This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created." Can we for now agree that heaven is a state of consciousness rather than a place; and earth represents matter, form? As human beings, on the physical level we are either male or female. On the spiritual level we are neither male nor female. We are the formless, consciousness. Born out of the formless, consciousness becomes the world. The world as we know it, of opposites, duality, male, female, etc. The characteristic of Adam and Eve, male and female, lives within each of us. In other words, Eve, the female aspect within represents what the Chinese call the "yin" (feminine, intuitive, sensitive, mysterious, inward, passive, yielding). Adam, the male aspect within, represents the "yang" (masculine, logical, active, obvious, outward, function, mental).

As I see it, the meaning behind "The Fall of Man" refers to the birth of unconsciousness, spiritually speaking. That is to say, we lost awareness of heaven, our state of wholeness. How we lost that state of consciousness was through the arising of "knowledge." This is the beginning of perceiving and understanding the world through thinking. ("Knowing good and evil," Genesis 3:5). We categorize, differentiate and conceptualize. Simultaneously, with knowledge arising, the feminine dimension of our psyche was greatly diminished. With the identification with thinking came ego, and with the ego came pain and suffering.

Through suffering our eyes were opened and we now know that thought in itself is not the truth, and our identity derived from thinking is not who we truly are. This brings us to this moment, where we are awakening and returning to wholeness. Eckhart teaches that we cannot return to wholeness, stillness, through the thinking mind (yang, male). So then, how do we find our way back to heaven? We find our way back, through the "yin" (female), inner attention, awareness of the inner body, stillness, sensitivity, feeling rather than thinking, and yielding, the inner yes to what is. The feminine dimension that was seemingly held responsible for the fall is now enabling us to awaken!

Soarhighj says, "...I was thinking about Eckhart's statement that to say one religion is the only true religion would be the ego talking (which made sense to me). I suppose my question is Eckhart seems to be advocating his principles as truth. Wouldn't some argue that his ego/pain body concepts are theories? And the law of attraction being a theory as well?..."

I don't think Eckhart advocates his teaching as the only true teaching. His teaching is but one of many teachings throughout the ages which point to the truth. All statements, such as the one that you refer to above, we could say, are concepts, theories, until proven otherwise. How do we prove a spiritual concept or theory to be true? Through our own direct experience. In other words: are presence, ego, painbody and the law of attraction, merely mental concepts for you, or have you realized their truth in your own experience? Only your own experience can take you beyond concepts.

Soarhighj also says, "...I keep thinking about some things Jesus said such as "The only way to know God is through his son" (paraphrased-can't remember exact words). These words make me wonder if he really was enlightened or someone who really was seeking the worship of those around him?..."

In my understanding, the word God refers to the divine in its unknowable aspect, and son refers to the indwelling divine essence in man and woman. In India, this is known as Brahman which refers to ultimate reality, and Atman refers to the divine in the human form. It is through and within the human form, the son (man, woman), that we know God. That is to say, we cannot know God without experiencing form. The limitless and formless is concealed within the very limitations of form and apparent duality. The story of Jesus points to the possibility for you to know God. Not outside, but within. This is the "son", and this is the essence of who you are.

Antidiet writes, "...My first reaction was to say, "Pack your bags and be done with the pervert." Instead, I tried HARD to be present, make a space, not label, etc. I told her to reread ANE and maybe an answer would come to her...I know there is definitely something I have to learn out of this, but if you were me, what advice would you give her for what seems to be an almost unforgivable offense?..."

I believe your reply to your friend, in that moment, was the correct response. Your willingness to be the aware presence, the space, rather than the conditioned mind (reaction), is the foundation of a developing spiritual friendship. One aspect of our spiritual evolution requires that we learn the art of spiritual discernment. This means, we are able to distinguish between the thoughts that arise out of presence and the thoughts that arise out of the conditioned mind. At times, during the process of becoming skilled at spiritual discernment, the reactive mind returns, as you experienced, ..."But, now, this morning I am reverting back to "leave the pervert!"..." Then, of course, be there as the witnessing presence for what is. With practice, eventually, you will be able to access the power of presence and spiritual discernment instantly. (Since young children are often defenseless, as adults we are accountable for the welfare of all children, if you were to witness or hear, in the present moment, of such violent child abuse, it is our responsibility to take action. That is to say, report it to the authorities).

7plus2 asks, "...Oprah asked Eckhart whether when someone commits violent actions if it is the person who is responsible or if it is "only" their painbody who is responsible. Eckhart responded that the person is not responsible, but that it is the painbody that is responsible. At least that was my understanding of his answer. This is hard for me to accept..."

Eckhart did say the person who is in the grip of the energy field of the painbody is not responsible. Further to this, Eckhart said, "But they will suffer the consequences of their unconsciousness." In other words, every act, so called good or bad, has its consequences. You are not personally punished, but you suffer the effects of your unconsciousness. And when you have suffered enough, you begin to awaken from your self-created nightmare.

The real issue for you, 7plus2, is "...This is hard for me to accept. My ex-husband molested my children, raped my daughters. It is very hard for me to grasp or accept that he bears no responsibility..."

You are right, this would be a hard one to let go of. However, what are the consequences for you, of holding on to the story, unfortunate as it is, and blame towards your ex-husband? Immense anger, hatred, pain, suffering, in yourself, then perhaps passed on to your children. The time is now that your children need you most, not as the angry painbody, but as the aware presence, the guiding light, the lighthouse that beacons them out of their own pain and suffering that was caused by your ex-husband's unconscious behavior. Even if this event happened long ago, what is important is this moment, and whether you are choosing to cling to pain and suffering at this moment. Because you are awakening, I believe it is possible for you now to step beyond the story and the emotional wounds, access the power of the present moment and accept the form that this moment takes without judgment, criticism and blame.

In closing, I am grateful to all the people who have contributed questions and comments, which made for a truly inspiring reading. My fondest and deepest gratitude to you all!

I would like to leave you with two quotes from the book One Liners by Ram Dass:

Pure awareness is who I was when I was Nobody.

***

Information is just bits of data.

Knowledge is putting them together.

Wisdom is transcending them.

Be well...be still...be in peace...

Kim Eng

© 2008, Kim Eng

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I am grateful for been alive,for my wife, and my daughter. I am grateful for breathing and having the time and space to listen to Eckhart,Oprah,Elizabeth,and Kim. I am thankful for all the soul mates who have answered my questions on the Messenger Board. I have received great insights, which has allow me to stay true to what is happening NOW. Again, Thank You for taking the time to write this blog.

I am so very grateful for this blog and the energy and insights that Kim is sharing with us. I am grateful for my family and all the people in my life, this beautiful present moment and the abundance in my life. I am grateful for the many gifts that I can share with the world and for the many gifts that I receive. I thank God for the grace in my life and the grace that has been bestowed on us all with these teachings on this mass level and for the tremendous healing. Namaste.

I checked out Eckhart's website the day before the book club was about to start and saw that there was going to be a book club discussion on "A New Earth" I watched it the next day at 2 am local time in my country! I ordered "A New Earth" the same day and I haven't looked back since! The road to awareness is paved with wonders - even if we trip up sometimes!! I love the way Eckhart explains things! I enjoy your blog, Kim, and all the interesting remarks you make. I also enjoy Elizabeth Lesser's discussions. I am grateful for having a computer that allows me to take part in this online book discussion. I am also grateful for my hearing because it allows me to hear what is said. I am grateful for my balcony and flowers which make living in a town more agreable. I am grateful that I am starting to be able to listen to the silence behind the noise, in that special place where I can find awareness!

Thank you, Kim. I'm grateful for these weekly lessons with Eckhart, Oprah and you. All of this wisdom being given to us, showing us another path to the truth, is such a gift. It really is. I love the stories and explanations; exercises & tips that are given. . . practical things I can do to remind me to be in the moment. I'm very grateful for the insights I'm gaining into my own behavior. . . not always pretty, but necessary nonetheless. I have to say, I do feel more calm and peaceful . . . .little things I found annoying, don't annoy me anymore. I'm very aware when annoyance arises within me, and thanks to all of you, how to be the space for it, and really just see it disappear. I'm so grateful to be able to do this and see results in my life with these little things. For me, right now, it takes a lot of vigilance watching my own behavior, and being aware of my thoughts, etc. I know though, it will get easier and soon, vigilance will no longer be required. I'm grateful for that knowledge too. Thank you again, Kim.

About Adam and Eve. I've thought of them alot as I reintegrate Judaism into my Buddhist life. There is a saying A child looks at a mountain and sees the mountain, an adult sees many things, a wise person sees the mountain. It's a progression. The child - the pre apple Adam and Eve is in the present but not aware. According to mystical teachings the eating of the apple was a necessary step for mankind (maybe God forbid it because they wouldn't think to eat it otherwise, reverse psychology?). We have to fall into duality to learn about ourselves physically. Some say the serpent is our kundalini energy, or our earth level, body level wisdom. So we fall into duality. We see many things. We experience great joy and great pain and gradually we learn and experience our way to wisdom. Now we have conscious awareness of duality and the big consciousness beyond it. Mega grateful for all the learning and the love.

I am grateful for my breath, my sight, my hearing, as well as the ability to taste, touch, and smell. I am also, so incredibly grateful for being so extremely alive right now. I am grateful for the ones who love me, and for the ones I love, family, friends, and friendly strangers. Thanks Kim Eng, for all of your caring, and insightful words of wisdom. I so enjoy reading your Blog Post, every week, and I get so much out of all the other posts, as well. Thank you also, for the beautiful meditations that you have given to all of us, in the Workbook Section for ANE. Take Care, With Blessings & Joy!!

I feel so blessed by the flow of grace pouring down from you, eckhart and oprah. It feels as if an answer to a prayer that I never formulated. I have a question about yoga, I read that you teach tai chi and yoga to realease the trap energy in the body. I love practicing yoga, and I would like to get some pointers on how to allow the energy to flow and grow still awarness during the positions.

Kim, You always give one so much to think about. Sometimes I need to process your concepts and read several times to get as much as I can from them. This was one I needed to ponder. I am so grateful for this class, for this book, for this beautiful day with the skies cleansed by rain, for the ability to grow and expand my understanding of what it all means.. one's purpose and humankind's destiny. I could have missed it.

I just wanted to tell you that I make a mental list daily with the treasures in my life daily: my teaching job, the fact that my three daughters are here after a horrific car accident 8 years ago this week, my home, my adorable puppy, my ability to be by myself and remain present. Also, my new computer so I can take the class.

This is one of my favorite quotes by Meister Johann Eckhart. . . .If the only prayer you ever say in your entire life is 'thank you', it will be enough.

Thank you Kim for taking the time to answer so many questions. Can you comment more on what Eckhart touched on last week but did could complete.... at the beginning of the class he said it naturally was to be attached to form (human) as consciousness shines through the human form. Then how does one cope with the loss of a loved one, I feel my attachment to the form of my father and uncle is real, not altogether created by my ego. I am grateful for my healthy, alert baby girl and my mother's help and companionship through my pregnancy and delivery.

Hi Kim. Thank you so much for answering my two questions! And yes, I have started to know his concepts to be true through my own experience! This book and the classes have really helped me identify my own egoic behavior and thoughts as well as the ego in others' behavior. And, knowing that the ego evolved with thinking just "clicks" for me. Your interpretation of Son and God helped me realize what Jesus meant. I am going to have to practice reading the bible in a new light after being conditioned to read it in the mentality of accepting Jesus as my one and only saviour. I am so grateful for this online class and Kim's additional help. I'm also grateful for my wonderful supportive family and friends.

I am so very grateful for God loving me so much to send this information my way. I am grateful that Eckhart and Kim have the heart to teach it to me. I am grateful that Oprah has the selfless courage to share it with the world. I am grateful for my beautiful children and every moment spent with them. I am grateful for my sisters, and especially that one is the journey to enlightenment as well. I am grateful that my husband works so hard to provide for myself and the kids. I am grateful for my very breath.

Thank you Kim for your blog. Very nice to hear your explanations and extra stories on several subjects. After several years practising a 'silence practise' I have currently started using a mantra meditation (via School of Philosophy). However, it seems to be contradictionary to use a sound, the mantra, to 'arrive' at silence. It is called a 'vehicle to silence'. Could you give some advise on this? Thank you very much and good luck with your blogs, and ofcourse practising silence. Dies, Amsterdam, the Netherlands

Hi Kim, wacthing yesterday's webcast I really was stirred by this subject of the everchanging nature of things. In last weeks it has become so clear how there is always going to be 'something up', whether it is no money to pay bills, or kids are sick or I don't feel good about my body, or somebody else's drama comes to my attention, and this cycle might reapeats itself or something else comes up. In a way this feels like an awakening from this idea that once some 'problem is resolved', money is made or I have the perfect body, or even once I reach a certain level of awakening 'things will be good'. Rather, I feel some kind of hoplessnes in this realization. Do you have any insights in this. I am very grateful that I can open up a bit and write about this. I am greatfull for feeling so alive, and for all the great challenges that I am given to practice being present.

Dear Kim, I wanted to thank you for giving us a space to express our gratitude! Thank you for helping so many people by addressing our questions and concerns. I feel the true caring and I am grateful for you, Mr. Tolle, Elisabeth and Oprah! ***My question for you is: I have always lived my life in the most natural way that I can and I believe in health foods and not taking drugs when possible. With that said I can see the place for painkillers and some types of drugs. Years ago they would have to remove a person's leg or take an arrow or bullet out with no painkillers. They could not put a person to sleep to do an operation. I myself had an operation on my broken ankle years ago and then I took painkillers after to help cope with the pain. As soon as I was able I stopped taking them and was able to cope with the remaining pain on my own naturally. I am 6 months pregnant with my third child right now. I consider this a beautiful gift. When I was in labor with my first child I went into it wanting to do it natural with no drugs. But during the labor it was so painful that I asked my husband to get the doctor to give me drugs. During labor I really felt sorry for myself and angry my husband didn't have this pain but that I had to alone feel this pain to give us both a child. My husband told me to try it a little longer and I ended up having the baby with no drugs. When I was in labor with my second child I also wanted to do it drug free. The pain was strong in the last two hours of labor and I was screaming and crying with it and by no means did I accept the intense pain at the time in myself in fact I felt like escaping myself somehow or anyhow just as long as the pain would stop. I didn't want to be in that moment with the intense pain but I still got through it all with no drugs. OKAY my question is can you give me any advice for my next labor that will be happening in August 2008? In the beginning of labor I can be present and be with my breathing and in my body. Basically I can handle it and I feel at peace and I feel focused. But at the end of the labor usually in the last two hours I feel out of control with the pain. It is so intense I cannot accept it and I feel like I cannot go on anymore. Would you suggest I try an epidural this time for the last half of labor? I was thinking that maybe I simply need it to cut the pain in half I am hoping and help me get through that hard end part of the labor? Or do you have some other advice for me on how to cope with the last part of labor. Thank you so much as a woman who has had a child with figuring this out if possible.

I am grateful for the suggestion of keeping a gratitude journal which for me will begin right now. I am also grateful for hearing the laughter of my daughter. That inspires me to be learn to be more aware & in the moment with her every day. I am also grateful that I can take the time to learn all of Eckhart's teachings. I find that I have many AHA moments but am still struggling to be in the present moment. Kim, I do find that I am able to say sometimes in the middle of my ego doing something or right after that I realize that what was just said or done wasn't necessary or wasn't me...it was just the ego. This is still a step in the right direction, right? With practice, will I get better?

Thank you Kim for offering your voice of experience and providing this meeting place for further discussion and sharing. And my gratitude to deerdancre for bringing this explanation of the Adam and Eve story up, as it brings to light something I've had some confusion about. When Eckhart says he no longer has an ego, does that mean he no longer uses it/is run by it (say for instance as we use the mind as a 'tool')? And what use have we, in our evolution as spiritual beings, derived from this existence in form, in ego? Or is it a 'mistake' or distortion or 'fallen' state? Something Eckhart has said (end of Chapt.3 discussion) is that the Ego is not something that one has to be rid of, but only recognized for what it is. "So, and then the ego has fulfilled its purpose, it has taken you to that point of awakening. So in order to awaken, humans have --were in the state of oneness with the source when they first came here, and then they lost themselves. They lost themselves in thinking. They lost themselves in the mind. They lost themselves in the ego. And then they reached the stage where this state of being lost produces so much suffering that this dream of life becomes a nightmare and they start waking up. This is the stage we have reached now". Oprah's explanation resonated with my own feelings about this when, during the chapter 8 session, she was speaking to a fellow at the Bodhi Tree bookstore in L.A. She said the ego is a tool that we use in the service of the higher consciousness. I believe Jung talks about this process as "Individuation". However I'm still unclear whether Eckhart is suggesting that we move 'beyond' the ego entirely...gone, or eventually get to a point where we simply keep it in our toolbelt and are no longer run by it. This reminds me of something that Dane Rudhyar once said in his book, The Astrological Mandala, about the Adam and Eve story. He said: "The Adam and Eve story (in Hebrew, Ish and Isha - much more significant names), refers to this principle of polarization, although the story has been turned upside down by priestly intellects to serve their purposes. Adam and Eve accepted the Presence, not of the Tempter, but of the Individualizer, who sought to have them born out of the womb of unconscious passivity to nature's God. But the result of the experience frightened them. They "hid"; they failed in the great test of individualization, and in this sense the archetype of that failure is deeply imbedded in man's generic unconscious. It is repeated time and again. Kim and deerdancre, is this pretty much what you are expressing or are you suggesting something a bit different than Rudhyar? Kim, I would love for you and/or Eckhart to discuss this a bit more, particularly within the context of the Adam and Eve story, and talk about why you feel we had to evolve in this way...within form, with ego, painbody, etc. in order to find our way back to source. Are we actually returning as in 'full circle' or are we returning more like a spiral, adding a new rung to our expanding consciousness? Entering into the serpent? Have we grown beyond where we were originally prior to Eden (from the 'child' stage as deerdancre suggests)? I ask this because on one level it feels as though we have fallen so far, and yet simultaneously many seem to have grown just as far in the other direction, in their spiritual lives. If that were not so then we wouldn't be having this discussion on a global scale or have best selling books such as The New Earth. My deepest gratitude to Eckhart Tolle who is a Godsend in the purest sense of the word. Eckhart's book, The Power of Now, represented the radical shift I was hungry for a few years ago, and his message continues to challenge, inspire and illuminate my path. While we are learning how to reconnect to source, he provides a life line that points the way. Last but certainly not least I'd like to add that I'm SO grateful to Oprah for sharing her own spiritual journey with all of us over the years, trusting both herself and us in a sure knowledge that we are all in this together. And for providing this new global classroom that connects and feeds us, helping to accelerate the process by expanding the depth and breadth of the playing field. Oprah said she was attracted to teaching...and what a school she's built! I for one didn't know just how hungry I was for this kind of gathering, or how much company I might have. Who knew! It's one thing to sense that there are others out there who are at a similar place in their journey, but quite another to get the overwhelming confirmation of that knowledge as this experience has provided. I don't want to be 'clingy' but I will surely miss the depths we have plumbed together here. However, I know the door for more of these experiences has just been flung wide open. Bravo Oprah!

Thank you Kim, for your insights - I am greatful for them. I am also greatful for Life, for stillness, for smiling faces and connectedness to the universe. I'm greatful for my health and the opportunity to ride my bicycle and experience nature, the birds singing, deers running, friendly dogs and the beautiful trees and colorful, fragrant flowers.

Dear Kim, thank you sharing views here and for your kind attention!Thank you all for being here! Sharing the view from here: First i'd like to share the story that Carlos Castaneda was telling about the son of his collegue, a young boy called Igor. It seems to be one of the ways for this shaman to illustrate what the 'foreign installation/mind' is. So, he was working at a university and had a friend-collegue there. His friend's schedual was not allowing him to take his son from school, so each day Carlos did him the favour to pick up the young boy Igor. Igor was a somewhat retarded, very obsessive, capricious, stubborn and constantly demanding attention and complaining. Carlos Castaneda would drive the car and Igor, who was seated just behind him, would often wildly grab Carlos's head by the ears and sharply turn his head and yell about something passing by on the street. He alsmost proked accidents this way. He would often do this when seeing fire-engine trucks. He would grab Carlos' head, turn it sharply, and start yelling: "fire engine red, fire engine red!!!"... ...Then one day, they were driving back from the boy's school the same way when suddenly on the street appeared a YELLOW fire engine! Carlos was very surprised he didn't hear any reaction from boy at the seat behind him and turned to look and see what's the matter...He saw the boy completely perplexed and frozen with his mouth dropped and eyes wide opened! Igor was being sent into orbite!! :D ...after this story, i've heard that he would explain that the human Mind in it's present state, is exactly like little Igor: would chatter, would often crudely try to divert your attention into some useless crap getting completely OBSESSED about it while the situation may be of life and death (as it is when we drive). On top of that, the mind (and Igor) would be somehwat of taxonomers: they would impulsively create categories by "resemblance" and "assotiation" and thus arrange the world into neat files of categories. As: "fire engine" associated with "red", etc. So when a cognitive dissonance (as fire engine yellow) hits the Mind or Igor, he is completely 'out of function' and still...Hense probably the use of Koans (cognitive dissonance tools, among other things) in the Zen tradition: they'd force the Mind-Igor to shut up and thus offer a momentary doorway for the energy body's awareness to pop into the daily world... Those shamans used to say that the Mind is an inventory. An inventory of things that can be named. Even abstractions, but nameable abstractions of the order of the known. They emphasized that to deal with this storage-house inventory is NOT to perceive but simply to toy with phantomatic shadow reflections of past things/events for which we took inventory by (as mr Tolle brilliantly explains it!) labeling them with syntax. They said that there is nothing wrong with the Mind as a tool: it is the tool of selfreflection that can be useful to keep pragmatic notes, etc. Also it can be used for communication in the social world through the concensus of a given syntax we have all agreed upon. That's fine, only there is a problem, they say. The problem is the reason of the downfall of humanity. And it has to do with the Mind and it is an energetic problem, energetic fact! It is the fact that we, humans got trapped into the Mind, trapped into the mirror of self-reflection! Trapped into past events' crudely filtered and minimized imprints into the mirror of selfreflection. We do not see/feel/sense energy as it unfolds, we don't even see it as it goes away, all we see is some label in our inventory that glosses over the infinite richness of energy interplay that is out there beyond words... He would say: "we see with the corner of our eyes something that vaguely reminds us of a 'tree' and we don't even look, we speak in our heads 'um, a tree' and gloss over it even though it may be an octopuss,..or a yellow fire engine (haha)..." In very very ancient times man had a very minimal and orderly mind inventory. Thus he was in touch with SILENT KNOWLEDGE. She/he knew directly everything, since he was able to perceive energy as it flows in the universe, which of course is not bound by linear time or language syntax, thus knowledge was immediate, not translated by language, abstract, yet pragmatically useful. Man took what was needed from knowledge, used it, then moved on elegantly. From the state of this direct link with the NOW, with direct SILENT KNOWLEDGE great mindboggling feats were accomplished! All of the fantastic ancient mynths have truth int them--they really did amazing things! The only problem is that man witnessing his own fantastic deeds and being connected with infinity/universe at large saw everything as it really is: transient and evfemeral...thus not being able to "keep" his "achievements" and marvel at them for pleasure a little longer. We may sense the roots of the desire for taking a "solid inventory" in this desire! To make things worse, an inorganic predatory being appeared from the depths of space. Ancient man was tricked by these inorganic beings into a "deal" of sorts, an axchange, an agreement: the predator gave man his predatory Mind and man got all the means he needed to sustain the ILLUSION of a solid world in which he could marvel at his own creations and self-reflection to his heart's content... What man lost in this exchange though, was dramatic in proportions: man lost his ability to SEE, he lost his connection with SILENT KNOWLEDGE, lost HIS WAY (as mr Eckhart put it). Man was trapped into an 'inventory' view of the world that permited only a tiny fraction of energy to beperceived and all the rest was filled in by the chatter of his Mind, because the predators installation in the head of man was very talkative, obsessive and repetitive! To make things even worse, man got cought in a viscious circle of sorts: as he lost his connection with infinity and silent knowledge he lost his sense of awe and joy from within. Thus he sought solas into the pleasures of the ego/selfreflection. Since ego is NEVER content, it sooner or later produces exuberant enrgetic outbursts of enregy. The deal of the exchange was that the predatory energetic fields that enslaved man were feeding on those outbursts. Man had his "solid view" of "permanent world" and the predator got his food. Man finished completely oblivious of the vibratory nature of his own energy body and the universe. All he knew were the thoughts and judgements in his head! This is in my view how we lost heaven: by obsessing with, not true knowledge, but with an inventory of labels: the MIND. Those shamans said though, that through consistent practice of inner silence the mind will flee one day and leaves the man become a seer--a being who has the fredom of perception! The seers said that the foregn instalation into the human mind is like Igor: it has no true consistency and only rules our lives when left unoticed. The predator's mind will try to turn your head and repeat loops into it, but cannot stand consistency, awe, discipline, affection, largness of the gesture, cognitive dissonace, etc... The moment the mind issilenced, the moment the vibratory loving touch of our energy bodies surface into awareness, as if waiting for chance! Until one day it permanently returns and becomes one single unit with us again :) As for the energetic nature of women and men, a being who is one unit with their energy body, i believe, can assemble either male or female being into this world. The energy nature of woman being is a being with a portion of true infinity in her, thus making her carrier of creative energy (the womb), and men are carriers of the energetic nature of unbending purpose: unbendin fibers of energy that will support women to dream the world into existence. Flowers and sunrays or sorts we are :) ...the way we will be in harmony with our energy bodies in terms to evolve, is the way we will be in harmony between women and men. Until today, the egomanical order was the logic of domination: either "power over" or power under"--a tyranical male dominated world with complacent women slavishly feeding this state of affairs. From what i understand, in terms for us to enact the change we need to join in the harmony of a new logic named: POWER WITH! women and men in POWER WITH. THANK YOU FOR THIS CONNECTION and sense of having co-travelers!

Dear Ms Eng, I thank you for your work you are doing. However, it strikes me that you offer a 'catch-all' solution, noble as it may be, to any given situation. Whilst I appreciate that this is the way Eckhart 'achieved' his enlightenment, and he is offering this as a solution to anyone as that seems to be his experience, I do question when one advises 'just being' in some of the situations described above, particularly the more unpleasant ones. There exist numerous technologies, such as Holosync, NLP, psychoanalysis, psychotherapy, rolfing, rebirthing, massage, social work and others, which I believe will aid people's processes even further. I would like to offer these to the mix to broaden people's palette in terms of what's on offer. Again, the work you do is lovely, but it could be massively supplemented by at least mentioning this type of material, it seems to me. Many thanks and I shall continue enjoying your classes, Devagni.

Grateful for recently learning some QiGong ... for breath and Being ... and for a good book and its book club ...

Hi Kim!! Finally catching up on your blog and wanted to say how incredibly grateful I feel to everyone involved in this project -- especially for creating a space for all of us to share this marvelous experience... together! It may come as a surprise, but since I began taking classes with Oprah and Eckhart, I actually put my Gratitude Journals aside (yes, journals -- one for myself, one for the family) and began to focus on being actively grateful each & every moment of my Life.

Prior to this study, I needed a visual prompt to recall all of my blessings throughout the day, week, year... but NOW, thanks to Eckhart's teachings, there is a constant awareness of Gratitude and JOY in the present reaching down to the depths of my Soul, minute by minute, second by second. Journaling about the past or future (what Rhonda Byrne terms, "Gratitude Intentions") seems somewhat out of touch when I AM so aware of being ALIVE and WELL in the Present.

I wasn't quite sure how to express this new revelation on your blog and, at the same time, relay my gratitude for your work and that of our wonderful colleagues and fellow students in this field of Divine Science. However, as I was composing this comment, I realized that recording my gratefulness for past, present, and future blessings in this study of ANE comes naturally in response to your request and remains a present act of my part. Fascinating.

RE: Adam and Eve -- check out the chapter on GENESIS, Science and Health with Key to The Scriptures by Mary Baker Eddy (also Joel Goldsmith's mentor; Final 1910 Edition is available online at Healing Unlimited and Gutenberg,) from which the following passage is gleaned:

Inspired interpretation
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