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by kim_eng

From Rags to Riches, (spiritually speaking) & Answers to Questions

Posted on Apr 18, 2008

Hello Everyone,


That was an amazing session! This is a significant chapter and phase in our awakening, as we recognize the ego in the form of the roles that we play. I am so grateful that I now have enough awareness to enjoy exposing the ego in me. It can be quite funny to watch. However, it wasn't always like that, of course. I used to be quite the ‘kicker and screamer' as I was undergoing my transformation into spiritual living. That is to say, moving from a strongly identified mind-based sense of self to living a life rooted in spirit. I had a lot of resistance and pain during the initial stages of recognizing my roles and disidentifying from them. I can only reassure you that it gets easier. It is the awareness that frees us from the ego and brings about the arising of a new world (a new earth). As Eckhart puts it, "The world can only change from within."


We are undergoing a transformation. As the caterpillar sheds its shell before transforming into a butterfly, we are peeling back the ego's protective layers that have become our prison and are preventing us from living our true purpose. By becoming, as Eckhart says, "The space for whatever is arising" we begin to dissolve the many faces of the ego. However, as our awareness grows and as we become more conscious of our old conditioning, we may also begin feeling the pain of our past, unconscious actions. Many people fear going through the emotional pain that was created by our unconsciousness, so they resist it which then creates even more pain and suffering. Guilt arises when you identify with past unconsciousness, and this is one way in which the ego may try to return. Yet, there is nothing to fear as we undergo this transformation, "...though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me...," Psalms 23:4. Death, of course, refers to either physical or psychological death (the ego). Once the ego diminishes, we will of course, as Eckhart said last Monday, "find the balance between human and Being."


This is about balancing our functions, roles (human) in society, such as mother, father, wife, husband, doctor, lawyer, cashier clerk, street cleaner, etc., and the dimension of Being which is the God essence in us. Each half which contains a segment of the other, i.e. yin and yang symbol, cannot be separated. When we become separate from human and being, we live out of balance, therefore suffer. Many of us, for thousands of years, have ignored our true essence. That is to say, we had become ignorant of our true self; in so doing we have lived our lives creating misery and suffering in our search for fulfillment and happiness.



Is it then possible to "Be" and still function in society? Smtan04 asked, "...PLEASE HELP WITH AN UNFINISHED QUESTION FROM LAST NIGHT'S WEBINAR....Eckhart was about to answer a very important question that many were waiting to hear....Oprah had asked him how he introduced himself to others without using roles or labels...."


The more we become aware of who we really are, who we are not falls away by itself. The egoic need to see yourself as either superior or inferior towards others is no longer there. Instead of identification with the roles that we play, we attend to our functions of the moment, mother, teacher, lawyer, etc. without making an identity out of them. For example, when I am counseling or teaching others spiritually, my function is that of a teacher, counselor. However, the moment I cease counseling or teaching, I am "nobody." In other words, I'm back to "Being." This doesn't mean that I stop "Being" when I am teaching and counseling. In fact, my function inherently arises out the depth of Being (stillness), which is the true source of all answers.


On many occasions when asked, "What do you do?" I would answer, "I'd prefer not to talk about this right now. I would much rather ‘just be with you.'" Some people obviously felt uncomfortable with this, and there would be an awkward moment of silence. I would then practice "being the space" for the uncomfortableness or silence. One could say, I was practicing being with the unknown and allowing for whatever to arise in the moment. Sometimes it happened that there was then a noticeable sense of relief in the other person, followed by an authentic interaction between two human beings.


Seeker0612 asked, "....I have been explaining to my 5 yr old daughter that her negative thoughts are separate from her, and coming from a place we call the ego. She really seems to get it...she asked me yesterday "mommy, does my ego love me". It was such a sweet question, and I want to answer it correctly, and age appropriately. Any guidance would be appreciated..."


If your daughter has an understanding of the term ‘ego,' I would suggest you may try saying something like this: "Honey, the ego is not the real you, so how can the ego truly love you? Only the ‘real' you can truly love you."



Sdf926 asks for clarification on "Collective Grievances" (pg 65, ANE) and Botokx has similar questions that are related to our current time, grievances with the situation between Tibet and China, the collapse of the Soviet Union.


Passive resistance or non-resistance is based on the recognition that no problem can be solved on the level of consciousness that created the problem in the first place (I believe Carl Jung said that).


The collapse of Soviet communism happened from within, not through an outside force (which would have kept it alive much longer). As Eckhart points out in A New Earth, it was the collapse of a collective egoic mind structure, a monolithic thought form that people no longer believed in.


As long as a grievance is held in the mind (personal or collective), the ego remains in place and the cycle of conflict continues. If grievances are relinquished, the unconscious cycle is broken. But, as Eckhart points out, they can only be relinquished if you recognize unconsciousness for what it is rather than make it into somebody's identity. When watching an interview with the Dalai Lama I was amazed to see that he holds no grievance towards the Chinese. (What a relief because I am of Chinese descent!). In my view, if Tibetan monks continue practicing mindfulness and meditation, there is a good chance that real change will come about. I recently read that already there is a small but increasing number of Chinese people who travel to Tibet for spiritual guidance. Tibet has the potential of being the place where a spiritual rebirth of China begins.


Perhaps non-resistance is not the answer in each and every case. I don't know. But I do know this: if you feel that you have to fight for a cause, fight with peace in your heart.



Jam828 asks, "how do you deal with family members especially if you don't want to participate in old egoic patterns of relating but want to spend time with them?... how do I protect my children from unconsciousness?"


I love the saying of Ram Das, "If you think you are so enlightened, go spend a week with your parents." Are you rooted enough in awareness so that you do not participate in the old egoic patterns? When you are the awareness, you are the space for unconditional love and acceptance even for unconscious family members. Eckhart said something like this: "Allow others to be where they are. Do not demand that a person change. Change does not come about in others by trying to get them to change. Give the other person complete acceptance."


How are we to protect our children from unconsciousness? We cannot fully protect our children from unconscious behavior. However, we can give them the means to deal with unconsciousness in others as well as in themselves. The best way of teaching this is to live it yourself. Your state of consciousness will be their greatest teacher. Oprah had said it in another way: "Children pick up your energy. Energy is the child's language." The words you use to communicate and teach are secondary.



Toni5859 asks for clarification regarding Eckhart's description of "What is commonly called "falling in love" is in most cases an intensification of egoic wanting and needing. You become addicted to another person, or rather to your image of that person. It has nothing to do with true love, which contains no wanting whatsoever." Pg. 88.


Can we agree that real "Love" has no opposite? Can we also agree that the term "falling in love" has its reverse that is "falling out of love"? When the ego thinks of love, there is a need, unconscious of course, for the other person to complete who I am or rather who I think I am. In other words, what I perceive to be lacking in myself, I need you to fulfill.


I could best answer by relating my own personal experience. Prior to entering into a relationship with Eckhart, I was single and feeling happy and conscious. I had often heard that Life gives you exactly what you need to awaken. And for me, a relationship is what I needed to awaken even more. Because shortly after entering into the relationship with Eckhart, I became aware of all my expectations of what a relationship "should look and be like." At first, I tried to place those expectations onto him, as well as myself, internally demanding that they be fulfilled. Suddenly, I realized that I was not having a real relationship. Rather, I was having a "relationship with an idea" in my head.


With the concept of "relationship" come expectations, memories of past relationships, and further personally and culturally conditioned mental concepts of what a relationship should be. I had learnt that with each idea, expectation, I had about a "relationship," I suffered. When I became free of my ideas of relationship, there was peace. A sense of lightness began to flow within the relationship and within myself. Finally, deep within myself, I understood that there are no relationships. There is only the present moment, and in the moment there is only relating. This, I would say, is true love, true relationship.


If you would like to read more about true love and relationships, go to eckharttolle.com, click on news, click on interviews, scroll to "Relationships - True Love and the Transcendence of Duality." This is an article I wrote based on an interview with Eckhart.


Last Monday's session, Eckhart said, "Dogs are more connected with Being." Therefore, in closing, I leave you with these words taken from a cartoon: two boys and a dog are lying on the grass, daydreaming. One boy says, "I think I'm going to be a doctor when I grow up." The other boy says, "I think I'm going to be an astronaut." The dog says, "I think I'm going to be a dog."


Be well...be in peace,

Kim Eng

© 2008, Kim Eng

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Kim, I love your blogs. You really do bring a warm and wonderful sensibility to all of this. And I love Eckhart's book, and these sessions with Oprah and Eckhart. . .they're a wonderful gift. I can relate to much of what you're saying. I woke up about 20 years ago. . . it was as though I had been spending my life totally unconscious, like a puppet, and someone else was pulling the strings. Looking back and using Eckhart's term, I was spending much of my time contending with my pain-body; what a nightmare. I'm eternally grateful for that inner transformation. . . .on some level it felt like such a paradox. . . I had to give up everything I thought I ever wanted in order to have everything I thought I ever wanted. After that amazing experience, I took a rest for a while. . . didn't really know where to go or what to do next in order to keep going spiritually, so I think I did go into a spiritual sleep. My life for the last 20 years has been peaceful but there are times when I've had this longing to go deeper within. Some of the things I've done over the last years which didn't always make sense because I really didn't quite get the purpose or the message. . . like A Course in Miracles, meditation. . . I really didn't know what the goal was. Now, with A New Earth as my guide, and these sessions, I think I do. . . all the things I've read, and learned, really teach the same thing. Learn to be in the moment, stay present. And these sessions with Eckhart and Oprah not only explain it all, but Eckhart is giving me a way to do that. . . I know how to do it now. It's so simple to stay in the moment and yet it's so simple to lose your focus and go off into that incessant thinking. Breathing has become a way for me to stay present. Who knew! It's strange, because it's something I've always known in my head I think, and now I'm doing it. . .I'm really able to do it. I'm able so often now to recognize when it's my ego and just breathe to get me into the present moment. My biggest question has been how do you go from an idea in your head, to 'knowing' and feeling and doing. . . and being. And I think this perplexing question is being answered for me. . .finally. The 'how' is happening by being in the 'now'. And now, thanks to you all, I'm able to do that. Such a difficult thing for me to understand for so many years, and now I just have to shake my head at the wonder and simplicity of it all. All those years ago when I was going thru the process of awakening, at the end, when I felt like I was finished for a while (now I know it was the complete dismantling of my pain-body. . .it's gone to the point where it really isn't 'my story' anymore. . .it's just gone), I just had to shake my head then, and I had the most profound and gentle thought. . .it was 'so it was you all the time'. All this searching, all the pain, all the years to find something. . .and it was here, in me, all the time. Amazing. It felt then, and still feels today like a miracle. I have that same feeling now, in some way. Thank you again. . . to you, and Eckhart and Oprah.

Hi Kim, I have a question for you :) I've been on this path for about 6 years now and it feels like I'm reaching a point very close to complete breakdown of my mind defined identity. Having become aware of many layers of mind identification it seems like I've reached a final layer. The best way I can describe it is an "I thought" without any additional content. I can see this "I thought" clearly and how being unaware of it ties me to an identity limited to the head. When I focus attention on it it's clear there's more to "me" than this "I thought", in bringing awareness to it my center shifts from the head to the chest area and a deep sense of peace appears. However, this is where I become stuck, I can see clearly that I am not this mind defined "I thought" but at the same time it isn't clear what my true identity is - it's like I can glimpse my true self but not quite realize it; like I'm stuck in no-man's land between knowing what I'm not and not truly knowing what I am. Do you have any advice for going beyond this "stalemate"? Thank you for listening :) Regards, drm1983

Dear Kim: Thank you for all of your wise and caring words, you are a very loving and gentle spiritual teacher. I also, love your blogs; I learn so much from you and all of the other bloggers. Thank you so much for addressing parents, my mom has been having some difficulties, recently, transitioning into a nursing home environment, and has been diagnosed with mild dementia. I have noticed that since reading Eckhart's books, and listening to his CD's, that I am more at peace, and I am able to enter into a state of stillness, and be more present, when I am with her. I have noticed that lately she is a lot calmer around me; could she be mirroring me perhaps?? I love my mom from the deepest core of my being, and I am able to accept her completely, with dignity and respect. I truly love reading Eckhart's books, and listening to Eckharts audio CD's. The Webcasts with Oprah and Eckhart are so enlightening and so very special; they truly are a lovely gift, to us all. I am learning so much from you Kim, and Eckhart, and Oprah, and Elizabeth Lesser. I am also so grateful for the support that I have received from all of the wonderful people on the message boards. WOW, what a wonderful spiritual journey we are all on!! Thank you also, for the sweet story, about the two boys and the dog. I am blessed to have, in me daily life, a wonderful Guardian of Being, my beloved dog Ben. I love to hear Eckhart refere to dogs, cats, and other pets in such a loving way. I wholeheartedly agree, "Dogs are more connected with Being." Take Care, With Peace and Joy!!

Hi Kim! I really enjoy your blog entries, they are very helpful, thank you! I'm finding it difficult to participate in most conversations. I'm noticing more and more, that most conversations center around complaining about situations, talking about illnesses, gossip and who did what to whom, what terrible thing happened on the news last night, etc. Basically my question is, how can I "be a space" for another's negative talk? It feels strange to not somehow acknowledge the other person's comments, or show some sympathy. Should I just be silent? I feel like I have nothing to say to anyone anymore. Is this "normal"? Thanks Kim!

Thank you Kim.

Thank you Kim, I had a similar experience to christens1 yesterday. It feels very odd not to be feeding my own or someone else's ego by talking about other people and situations. I am aware of a huge amount of identification with ego within myself. Gosh, I've become painfully aware that almost every thought has an element of ego within. It feels unsettling and weird at the moment. Another layer of ego swings between telling me how clever I am to notice these thoughts and judging myself as hopeless because I'm so completely in ego mode most of the time! (and what's more I used to consider myself quite a spiritual person) :) The second paragraph in your blog helped me a great deal with this. Thank you. I really have enjoyed your blogs.

Thank you Kim, for being the space for my question. My question is "If thinking is automatic, what happens to the mind when I'm Being present?" If it's no longer automatically the body's intellence... now what's happening? Again, thank you, Kim.

I just wanted to say THANK YOU KIM!! Your blog has been so wonderful. I am grateful for the space you have created to help guide those of us who have questions. Peace with you always, Smtan04

Dear Kim, I also wanted to say THANK YOU VERY MUCH, KIM!! I was trying to find the answer to the "What Do You Do" question, because Eckhart had said "you can actually talk quite normally without being identified with what you say" (whatever that means). He was interrupted before he could finish. So I came to this blog in hope of finding the answer. In reading your blog, I realized I have discovered a gem mine! Thank you for sharing your own personal relationship experience (very helpful!) and addressing collective grievances (an important world issue, especially currently) and all the rest of the gems in here, interspersed with great quotes. I love the dog story at the end -- nice touch! I am now going to read your other blogs. Thank you very much again for your insightful and empowering blog. Peace and many blessings to you.

Dear Kim, I'm enjoying these blogs so much because in other parts of Oprah's site dedicated to the web event, there are thousands and thousands of messages--way more than I could ever read! But this is a manageable "corner" of that world, so I appreciate you taking time to blog here. Especially since you are close to the "source," so to speak, and can add additional insights regarding Eckhart's books and teachings! I have one quick question for you: in this blog you talked about the Dalai Lama's reaction to the Chinese (or really, lack thereof, since he holds no grievance). And I was surprised that you said "what a relief since I am of Chinese descent!" Would you talk about your reaction a little bit, because that would seem to be the ego feeling the relief, but I can't be sure. I also enjoyed the comments from the parent whose 5-year old understands the concept of ego. I am trying to pass on what I am learning to my 4.5 year old, so this is very encouraging! :) Thank you to everyone for sharing! Be light, Denise

Thanks for your insight, Kim, and for bringing additional clarity. I just finished reading The Power of Now which is also helping me become more conscious and present. There were times in the book (TPON) when it seemed as if it were YOU asking Eckhart the questions. I have a couple of questions: 1. When the form dies, does the ego and pain body (or parts of it) reincarnate along with the new form? For example, if someone has an addiction or bad habit, will it continue to manifest in the next life until it is made conscious and surrendered (i.e., released)? Isn't this the reason behind reincarnation, to continue to experience pain and suffering until one can awaken from the dream and dissolve ego? 2. I have been reading about and studying the Merkaba meditation, which is based on using Lifeforce energy along with consciousness to create a vehicle for ascension. Is this beneficial or needed for transcending to the next level during the shift? Or will awakening to the Higher Self (Stillness) be enough? Thanks, and many blessings to you and your work. doctorcare

Thank you Kim for sharing your thoughts re my 5 yr old's question (does my ego love me?)....I shared your response with her just before bedtime tonight and a big smile appeared on her face....I asked if she got it, and she said "yes, I get it"....I honestly think she already knew the answer.. ......please consider writing some childrens books on these issues.....they can and do get it....one of my jobs is working with children with severe mental illnesses (homicidal and suicidal) here in New Orleans, and I am having my entire clinical staff read "A New Earth?....I would love to also have childrens books to have them read to/with the kids...

Kim, maybe for now you can write a short story so that I can read to my grandchildren. Know that your help is well needed! Thanks,

Hi Kim, I've always enjoyed your blogs, thanks for posting them. I have the same question as christins1: what to do, practically, around people who complains all the time? I work in customer service business and people, naturally, complain all the time, even my co-workers and boss. So far, I've been able to practice being transparent and not to let the complaining gets me, but practically, what should I say to them? When my boss is complaining, it's hard not to say anything, or not to even nod or smile! Yet, I realize that gestures of approval will only strengthen the ego and thus the viscious cycle of complaning will continue. Many thanks & look forward for your blogs.

I too enjoy reading your thoughts. I really like, admire and revere the Dali Llama; his response to the Chinese is a lesson for the whole world. I've often thought that if the Chinese had not taken over Tibet in 1959 the world might never have known the Dali Llama as they do now; that idea gave me a larger sense of the "purpose" of what happened to Tibet. You have given me a different way to look at it...one I had not thought of...thank you. Perhaps Tibet will become the spiritual center for the Chinese one day...how marvelous. China is a huge nation and one day will be very influential in the affairs of the world. Thank you again for your thoughts.

Hi to all! Thank you for this wonderful opportunity to share our collective journey's and energy. I am curious about the concept of 'I' as a separate entity to the egoic mind structure, is it an illusion and why do we so powerfully preserve, protect and please it? We speak of the concepts to achieve; that we are all ONE, silence of mind, total acceptance and focus on what is happening now. The awareness, energy and presence that permeates your essence manifests itself in action that is "in flow or in the zone" without need to please the ego - pain body. What are your thoughts on how the Illusory 'I', without the egoic mind, is part of the basic nature of the human mind (experience), our genetic memory combined with our life experiences, and how our journey of awakening allows our emotional essence to achieve grace in all experiences. For example; " life's consciousness evolves into a quite ethereal joyousness of all experiences that we, as human individuals, experience and allow ourselves to revel in as part of our personal and collective journeys". Yet, we are still 'I', ONE with the energy that is beyond our conscious senses - spiritual energy 'God', without the need to serve the minds Ego. In other words, we are in a state of peaceful bliss...? Your blog, discussions and the New Earth events are so hugely welcomed! NovoLibra

Kim! Wonderful to see your blog here and am enjoying Eckhart and Oprah over the www - I think THIS is what Tim Berners-Lee had in mind when he conceived of the web! I'm in University at the moment and having a wonderful time studying arts and technology - so many Spirits awakening, each in their unique way. Reading the questions about day-to-day interactions brings a smile. It seems just recently I am able to be as compassionate with myself and noticing...space for the entire learning: including how I am often uniquely unconscious - and yet fully engaged in the play of life and the learning that awakening is for myself - in relationship, family, peers and friends. I remember watching Eckhart in Italy 7 years ago observing: oh, that's HIM being present; I wonder what that's like being myself? The discussion on roles and functions was a major ah-hah moment - for a time I wanted to 'get away' from Dallas and 'be' somewhere else, and during the past year I'm enjoying watching the city I grew up in awaken, one person at a time. :) Lovin' the webcast - thanks to you, Ekchart and Oprah! - Kim Smith

Dear Kim, Thank you for your messages. After many years of different types of suffering I was exposed by miracle to the teaching of Eckhart 6 years ago by 'The Power of Now' which gave me the tools to practice presence every single day till now. Reading all his books and listening to every single CD, still ANE event has allowed deeper awareness and stillness in me. I have spent 8 years of my childhood in the war and seen violence very closely. Yesterday after 30 years past those experiences I had an eye-openning experience, for the first time observing my thought pattern on every single event in my life when I picture the worst possible scenario is about to happen. While driving I saw a young boy trying to run through intersection on the red light, I pictured him being run-over by a car and a terrible terrible picture that I will not describe here. Interestingly I have never been aware of this pattern. For the first time there was space around the thought. It has been so automatic and leaving me in a lifeless and fearful state. Listening to lastnight webcast it seems like an addictive thought pattern I have build up for 30 years to expect the worst in order to protect myself from the shock. My question is "Is it possible to change such an automatic thought pattern that has been created in childhood and acted for so long? Specially that it hasn't prevented me from living "normal" but has sucked joy out of me!". Thanks a Lot, Azimeh

Thanks Kim for your enlightenment and for sharing with us your personal experiences, that are very helpful. I just realised that I'm having a "relationship with an idea" for almost 20 years.

Kim, I too want to thank you and Eckhart for your spiritual teachings it has been such a blessing in my life. My question has to do with last night's webcast and the pain body. I assume that depression is an expression of the pain body and if so does taking antidepressants to mask the symptoms of depression keep you from dealing with your pain body and eventually being able to rid yourself of it? I ask this because I take antidepressants and occasionally still experience some depression. Last week I had one of those bouts of depression which was the first incident of depression since I started reading Eckhart's books one month ago. I quickly fell back into my old patterns of trying to get rid of it through external means by trying to eat it away which of course never works anyway. I also tried to do some breathing techniques to try to become more present but I still kept having the negative thoughts that just perpetuate the suffering like why me and "am I going to have to battle depression for the rest of my life?" Eventually I decided I needed to try my best to just accept this feeling that I am having and at that moment a thought from A New Earth came into my head "suffering is necessary, and it is necessary until it is no longer necessary". As soon as that happened it was like a light came on in a dark room and I was no longer depressed. It was definitely my AHA moment. So therefore I wonder if taking antidepressants is keeping me from facing my pain body which I need to do to eventually dissolve it. Peace to you and Eckhart and thanks for listening.

Hi Kim, Eckhart says,"there are no relationships, there is only relating" From within, in the moment,I feel awakened and "at peace" with where I live,and have done so for many years. If the person that I am relating with, in the now, does not feel "at peace" with this place to live, and therefore we are "at odds", I choose not to change them but to continue being "at peace". My question is this: We continue to be "at oddds",when we discuss living arrangements, Is this my ego strategy at work to avoid surrender?, or is this my awakened clarity of how to honor the space, where I am at peace.

Kim, for years I have had several affirmations that begin with "I am". I have never read any other books by Eckhart Tolle, but I am learning so much from ANE. I was driving to the store today and it occurred to me that there is no real power in anything other than NOW. "Being or I am" dwells in the NOW. When I am present, is it correct to say that "I am now?" For example, one of my affirmations is, I Am prosperous. Is it correct now to say, "I am now....Now I am prosperous."

Kim, great words of insight. This book has been a God send! Thank you all. My question is about resistance. In physics (laws created by the source) force or resistance is the lever of creation. I appreciate your concept of non-resistance and it has changed my life in a matter of a few weeks but now that I have absorbed it, the question has risen to the surface that I cannot ignore. I must "resist" or create force, to create positive change. Example? We till the ground to plant food for our life. We could possibly survive on picked fruits and berries and things given with no effort but with a bit of resistance, we improve the chances of a good crop and survival. This is good. How can we as simple human beings (Think early man especially) have survived without toil and this resistance. In the same way, and to the question posed on session 3 by Quincy Jones' daughter, I feel that I must carefully challenge this concept of the book so that my little resistance can bring about good things for all through my secondary purpose.

Yes, I too want to know this!! I am just hoping my vibrations are coming through to the other person as positive and caring. I find